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hypothetical
SYNONYMS
made up, unreal
Hypothetical | Synonyms of Hypothetical by Lexico


Fictional...imagined...
Definition of MADE UP

 

Hypothetical means you have made a conjecture based on observation, and now you plan to test it. It isn't "made up". That conjecture would be based on some level of knowledge/experience, again not just invented from whole cloth. A hypothesis is a serious thing. It requires a level of support to even get started. It may be completely wrong, but it isn't made up.

 

Janitor/nurse/therapist goes to game, gets infected, asymptomatic. Goes back to work at nursing home. How do you prvent that?

 

maybe we can get you a zoom class on reading comprehension. If you start a go fund me maybe I’ll pitch in.

 

they wear masks and gloves at all times in the facility. What’s your point? It’s outside and only 25/33% captivity. In 95 degree heat. And you think that’s the place I’m most worried about any of your so called hypotheticals contracting coronavirus? Dang man. You really are putting in the effort to try as hard as you can to paint a worse case scenario. The workers at moms facility have a much higher chance of getting coronavirus from a place like a grocery store or home improvement store or possibly church. Basically anywhere indoors. I don’t expect the people working at my moms facility to be in zero contact with other people until there is a vaccine.

My mom has congestive heart failure and poor lung capacity and would with great certainty die if she got Covid19, but she doesn’t want to live if she has to be isolated for another year+.

 

It’s amazing the mental gymnastics some of these people go thru.

 

My sister is a physician and at her hospital they had an outbreak among staff. A few dozen workers.

Fortunately so far none of the workers have required hospitalization, most of the impacted were nurses and most were supposedly from the NON Covid units. Probably average age in the 20’s/30’s.

However, from what I’ve been told at least a couple patients likely contracted it in the hospital. Again, because these nurses were supposed to be doing non Covid patients. This is despite that all the employees wear masks at all times in the building. But they aren’t wearing the n95 masks that are worn in the Covid unit. Everyone else just wears a surgical mask. So this may be an indicator of the effectiveness (or lack thereof) of a surgical mask vs n95, at least in a health care setting. It’s still much better than nothing for everyone else.

 

Qualifier though, surgical masks were not designed to stop virus particles, especially for 8 and 12 hour shifts in buildings already filled with germs. I am related to 3 nurses and a doctor and everyone admits, the hospital is one of the worst places to go if you want to avoid getting sick. Not shocking that there are breakouts among hospital staff.

 

as we approach 100000 dead it makes me sad that people are still posting meaningless stats like this in this thread to justify their point of view. Back at 100 dead? Sure. 1000 maybe? 10000 it’s starting to get gross but at 100000? Meh. I’m not allowed to say what I want to say.

 

So I guess we should just rename epidemiology “the science of making stuff up”, since all they do is project and predict what could happen. None of what they say has happened yet and may not ever, so I guess they just “make stuff up”, same thing, right?

 

Yeah, surgical mask helps. But not designed for constant exposure.

They think there was a patient who tested negative, but later came back positive (and eventually died). They think that was the original cause, infecting a bunch of the nurses on that floor. Those nurses were not properly protected as it was not the Covid unit, so they were just entering rooms with standard surgical masks.

Like I said, the nurses are 100% fine health wise so far, they just had to be held out until cleared. Not aware of any workers dying yet. But they suspect a couple cases of hospital transmission to patients, including at least several who had to go ICU. Not sure of any linked to deaths yet, but if they needed ICU it sounds pretty bad. This was actually weeks back, so I should ask about that. I basically just try to get an idea of how many patients there are and if anybody is dying here locally. It’s been steady here, the hospital actually had it’s highest Covid numbers pretty much on the same day we are “opening up” and right when they were having these issues with employee infections. Which obviously seemed incredibly foolish to us.

 

Horowitz: The CDC confirms remarkably low coronavirus death rate. Where is the media?

 

As anyone that can do math could point out, the death rate has a numerator and a denominator. Deaths divided by infections.

If the the rate is dramatically lower than previously thought producing 350,000 deaths, then the math tell us that the number of infected must be dramatically higher than previously thought.

It’s a mess either way. Too many people dying at a lower rate than thought as opposed to too many people dying at a higher rate.

 

This is sad. Does it suck that 100k people have died, but 225k people die every month in the US despite the advances in medicine. Father Time is undefeated. I’m not diminishing this virus, it’s deadly to older people. But it’s nothing to young people. Look at the data. Stop watching the news. Can’t help you otherwise.

 

Good to see that adults are still at the pentagon after the Roosevelt debacle. Sad that they have to work behind the back of the president or risk a child like tirade. We will see how Esper walks the line.
Pentagon charts its own course on COVID-19, risking Trump's ire

In late January, when only six people in the United States had been diagnosed with the illness and Trump was insisting the virus was under control, the Pentagon was releasing its first coronavirus-related guidance to its service members and personnel.

 

We are just dealing with semantics. I can certainly pull a hypothetical out of thin air just as much as I can thoughtfully construct one.

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How do you prevent it period. Could happen at the store or gas pump or in her own home. What is the line? That is the question that is hard to answer.

 

Oh ok. Please pass on your great wisdom and tell me where you divine the objective truth of the world. Facebook?

 

Scientists Say New, Lower CDC Estimates For Severity Of COVID-19 Are Optimistic

 

Researchers in Spain recently released the results of a large antibody test there and found that about 5% of the population has been infected. That gives them an IFR of about 1%. The New York antibody study gave an IFR of somewhere between 0.7-1.0% for the state (0.8% for just NYC).

The theoretical IFR of 0.26% from the CDC's best estimate doesn't match the real-world observations. Their worst case estimate of 0.8% is more in line with the real-world observations we have so far.