Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

I’d wear a mask tomorrow for the opportunity to watch a gator game.

 

I actually agree with you on most of that. That doesn't mean we need to throw caution to the wind. People are out here acting like we've beaten the virus. Like we are on the other side of this thing and can return to normal. Like having college football games is rational. It isn't. Thousands of people are still dying every day. So to accuse people who are trying to stay at home as much as possible as being afraid is a shitty take. Period. Stuff needs to open back up for sure, but we can do it in a thoughtful and diligent way.

 

That has something to do with the current flu surveillance:

 

7,500 people die every day in the US. That won’t stop no matter what we do. Father Time is undefeated. But when people under 25 have a 1 in a million chance of dying from Coronavirus them yes, I’m going to say it’s a nothing. The elderly and sick are the vast vast majority of deaths. In Pennsylvania, more people over 95 have died than people under 60.

 

You're right, those old people had a good run. So did the people with underlying health issues. As long as I get mine, screw em?

 

Who is saying that? I’m saying to isolate the elderly, and maybe don’t send Covid+ patients back to nursing homes. That sounds like a simple plan that would’ve saved thousands of lives.

But not sure what that has to college football and people attending. I wouldn’t let my elderly mother attend a Gator game in the fall, but I would have no worries bringing my kids to a game. I’ve said in earlier posts that to be smart about it. Not sure why this is complicated. It’s not that hard.

 

So isolate roughly 25% of the population? You make my point for me. You want other people to make sacrifices but aren't willing to make them yourself. You aren't worried about your kids health at a football game, rightly so, but you clearly also don't care who or how it spreads. This is a highly infectious virus. Avoiding large gatherings is super simple stuff here. Yet people won't.

 

You’re complicating things so much more than necessary. You’re arguing points that we’re never made and when all else fails you resort to name calling and baseless generalizations. I’ve never said college football players are going to die if they play, I never said it’s too dangerous to play, I never said we need to lock down forever, and the next time I watch msnbc with my liberal friends will be my first. You claim all you state is facts, which let’s for arguments sake say is true, who the hell cares about your “facts” when they have no relevance to the discussion. The only fact that you’ve brought is the death rate for 25 and below, but I never said college athletes would die if they had a season, so what's it matter if you keep saying it? Everything else has been strictly you’re opinion, nothing else has been factual. The premise of my argument was its unethical to make unpaid college students risk their long term health solely for the university’s financial gains. College football players should not be back on campus if they aren’t ready to safely open campus for summer B. I stand by those statements as I type this cowering in a corner to afraid to leave my house....

 

Would you then let your kids visit your mother?

 

And so the young person goes out and becomes contagious. And he goes to the Gator game because he is asymptomatic. Then, to get groceries. And has a drink at the bar. And then goes to work. Thankfully, older and vulnerable people do not need food etc. and the the bartender and the people who work at the grocery store never come into contact with older or vulnerable people. And then the younger person becomes symptomatic. And has trouble breathing because the disease is a pneumonia by structure. Not a flu. It has a spike that specifically attacks lower respiratory cells. So our young hero needs to go to the hospital and takes a bed. And then recovers because he is young. And that happens all over the place because the country is wide open. He or she is not at risk so who gives a rats ass about anyone else. Make America Great Again.

 

My mom is in an assisted living facility that’s been locked down since early March. I thank God that DeSantis recommended that and not to send Covid + patients back to her nursing home

 

I have no idea, but he was making up a scenario, not sure that is debatable.

 

Pandemic? nah. they were playing the Dawgs. Much worse.

 

OK? I just responded to river asking what was "made up". Hypothetical is by nature "made up". Not saying you will be wrong or right. Just pointing out that 95 was not incorrect to say you made that up, and you may be correct in saying he did. I just answered the question presented and agree that you can say the same about 95.

 

Hypothetically then, would you let your kids visit their grandmother after attending a Gator game with 80,000 other people.

 

We take the kids to see their grandmother every week. She is inside her facility and we are able to see her thru the window. I bring her food every week. We are extremely lucky no one in her place has had Coronavirus yet. None of us are within 20 feet of my mother and she is inside a building.

not sure why all the hypotheticals. If people use common sense we will get thru this. That includes Trump, Cuomo, the CDC and whoever else you want to lump in there. It’s about time we start using the data we have accumulated and make decisions off of it and not on what “could or might happen”. We know who this targets.

But I would have no qualms bringing my kids to the outside of my moms facility and having them wave to my mom after a gator game, after a baseball game, heck even after being in a grocery store surrounded by people some of whom don’t have masks on.

 

this is so out there in fantasy land. Only thing missing was Captain Hook and Peter Pan.

 

One other thing from my hike today, anyone ever see this happen to a tree?

 

Perhaps not, but your operational definition of "made up" fails.
made-up
/ˈˌmād ˈˌəp/

adjective
adjective: made-up
2. invented; not true.
"a made-up story"

4. concoct or invent a story, lie, or plan.
"she enjoyed making up tall tales"

So which definition of "made up" are you applying?

 

Yeah you're not answering the question.