Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

No, it's not. I would say only the first 2 parts of the 1st sentence and the 2nd sentence are fact.

 

I won't judge anybody for doing anything to decrease their risk, seems like a very unlikely way of getting it however. If my mother in law lived with us I might not wipe down things on purpose, lol. J/K of course.

 

Actually, the flu seems to spread even more easily. But covid-19 is far deadlier and we don't have a vaccine and only one promising antiviral.

But you cannot look at that graph I posted and reasonably say it looks like the flu. The flip in trends, far more flu cases but far less flu deaths and vice versa, is one of the key reasons why experts do not see this as like the flu. It's helpful to read up on epidemiology, objectively.

 

I have wondered if folks can get the flu and be asymptomatic?

 

We don't any vaccines for the flu that really work good

 

50+% isn't "working good"? Not to mention those that get sick and had a vaccine tend to have better outcomes? I'd take that in a heartbeat for COVID-19.

 

more good news, even with the vastly increased numbers of daily tests, the positive tests the last 10 days are about 6.5%, overall down to about 12% positive, was almost 20% a month ago.

 

That was what Trump, Fox and other rw talking heads were saying...until they couldn't. But you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.

It's no worse than the flu.
It's just the common cold.
Bu bu but what about what about H1N1 pandemic?
It's a democratic hoax!

All the while, ignoring why experts on infectious disease reacted so differently this type. Bottom line is there is a large swath of the public that has put base political ideology and anti-science sentiments ahead of rational understanding. Yet they know more than the experts.

 

It makes sense to me that the right and left would disagree on the role of government or abortion or immigration. These are issues based on values.

But I don’t see any reason for the sides to disagree on objective measures, like the number of covid deaths.

Whether covid is “like the flu” is something in between maybe. There are certainly aspects where it is like the flu and those where it isn’t. I think the posters opposing you are using # of cases and deaths as their central metric, where indeed there is a disparity. I don’t think that you are wrong to suggest that part of this disparity has to do with how long the two diseases have been around, but regardless of the reasons, Covid is infecting and killing many more people than the flu.

 

More complicated than that. We have multiple flu strains that lay dormant outside of flu season. But we have a worldwide and national surveillance system to help identify early on during flu season to help predict which strains might become the dominant one(s) in order to produce the vaccines on a scale to match the strains. They don't always get it fully right, but it's far more effective than having nothing.

 

Things that make you go hmmm.


As more states reopen, Georgia defies predictions of coronavirus resurgence

 

I agree with all of this. I'm not saying Michelle Obama will end up being wrong in the long run, but since we don't know this RIGHT NOW we can't treat it like we treat the flu (escpecially since we currently have no anti-virals or a vaccine).

 

Absolutely not. I'm going to now insist, regardless of any rational thought and mindfully disregarding any pertinent facts, this is just like sore throat.

 

Let's hope it keeps up. I can't speak for everyone but as far as the "reopening too soon" argument I would love to be wrong. I'll eat so much crow I'll be crapping feathers for a year. I desperately want to return to normalcy.

 

The flu vaccine is exceedingly effective. Mutz laid out its limitations, it isn’t bulletproof. Without it we’d have rolling decimation.

 

Coincidence or not, I didn't get the flu shot one year and of course I had the flu and was sicker than sick for 8 days. I will never not get it again.

 

Yeah, you get the flu you damn well know it.

 

Hard to say. We know that many who get it often don't seek treatment, at least sometimes not until it might be too late.

But let's say there are far more, say millions more, who had Covid-19 and were asymptomatic and haven't shown up in the numbers. Even assuming this, not since the 1918 pandemic has the trajectory for flu deaths looked anything like it does for Covid-19.

In other words, not in a century has the flu killed so many so quickly.

 

My wife didn't get the vaccine last October and got the flu in January. It was horrible. Luckily she fought it well and was back to normal (minus some minor pneumonia) within a week and a half. Those first 3 days were scary though.

 

And I did indeed get it one year I DID get the vaccine, only time I’ve ever had it. But I’m (now) a teacher. And a science teacher. My kids are in there biologically terrorizing me daily. I will not let the terrorists win.