Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

I looked at the numbers and addressed the interpretation from Travis in the tweet you linked and stated it was incorrect. Then, you tried ad hominem arguments rather than trying to deal with what I stated. The wishcasting is not in the numbers themselves but in the interpretation you chose to link from Clay Travis, where he rightly stated an issue with one metric and wrongly ignored the mirror-image of the same issue on the other because it led to his preferred outcome.

 

wow, and i thought people got mad at me...

 

wrong. I posted Gottlieb’s chart. Didn’t address Travis’s comments. But you keep hoping that our administration fails and Trump is removed. At least you aren’t shy about your motives. I’m sure your next post will be about some of the states who are doing great post open... I won’t hold my breath. The next positive thing you post will the first.

 

You posted Travis' tweet. Sorry, but that is factual. Maybe it was incidental, but it is there, trust me.

As I posted earlier, people that wishcast can't imagine the thought processes of people who don't. Everything starts from motive rather than from what is right or wrong or supportable or unsupportable.

 

they are mad because they predicted Florida would be a disaster with Coronavirus. They were wrong and are pissed that country is opening back up. It’s sad but true.

 

Starts from motive rather than evidence. Again, if you wish to discuss something in particular that I stated, I have no problem with you going back and discussing a particular thing I said. Everything else is just ad hominem disguised as some sort of point.

 

I've been tracking the raw numbers at three day intervals since the middle of March. It looks like the increases are finally trending down. Keep in mind these are only raw numbers, not ratios. These are the three day increases for the past handful of intervals.

Date.......world cases.....world deaths.....U.S. cases.....U.S. deaths
Apr3........255,940............14,061...............93,006...........4,731
Apr6........258,072............16,907...............75,063...........6,212
Apr9........278,941............15,389...............84,217...........5,238
Apr12......239,189............12,376...............61,327...........3,388
Apr15......284,608............15,658...............75,649...........5,082
Apr18......266,271............11,660...............66,009...........3,474

The numbers continue to fluctuate two steps fwd, one step back but they appear to be trending down.

 

hey, that's my gig your moving in on...

 

Since day one, there have been people in this forum who have not had one positive thing to say about the outlook for the future. All they do is post doom and gloom and shoot down anyone who tries to put a hopeful spin on this thing. They enjoy this. Maybe they're independently wealthy, maybe their personal and family situation gives them a safety net or a safe harbor from living under the I-75 overpass. The only thing between me and that right now is the job I still have, and I thank God almighty for not losing it like so many people have. They want this shit to drag on until it impacts the election, which it won't do unless it lasts through the summer. I don't care who wins the election because we aren't going to get a leader either way. The willingness to shut down and destroy people's lives for a political agenda is despicable.

 

He had to wait until after the draft to see how their teams prospects might be.

 

That’s a well written opinion article. Spot on. Should be required reading for conservatives.

 

Things were shutdown to minimize a worldwide pandemic from rapidly spreading. A bad alternative. Like almost everywhere else in the world. And in places where the pandemic was limited and controlled, it was because people did what they were supposed to do. Staying open was a bad alternative, too. Virus would spread. Sorry you saw Donald Trump’s lies, particularly in February, as good. There is nothing good about this. And, too bad that the projections by posters here off 1000 cases or the virus disappearing by March 31 didn’t happen. You want to be happy about this, be my guest. But calling out lies and incompetence is justified. Not a political agenda. See the link in post 11172. Like touting the work in Florida, which is not not posting truthful numbers. Like manipulation of the dashboard. Not counting snowbirds. Like telling MEs not to attribute the virus as a cause of death. Like Georgia getting caught red handed lying about its numbers. Like the White House making projection based in an economist, not a virologist or epidemiologist, who said there would be zero cases by May 15. And on and on it goes. What don’t you explain why the virus is going to disappear this summer? Other than a miracle. Which we all pray for.

 

I'm waiting for you to explain why you are certain that it won't. And even if it won't, I am sorry, but we do not have the collective right to impoverish tens of millions and rob the youth of the entire world of a summer or a productive year of school so the timid can hide in their basements and suck their thumbs because 0.025% of the population is going to die.

 

I didn't see this posted so I'll post it here. I only went back a few pages on the thread. Sorry if already posted.
So NY sent Covid 19 patients into nursing homes? This also includes an interesting contrast between FL and NY responses.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/16/blame-governors-for-coronavirus-deaths-in-nursing-homes-goodwin/

Excerpt from the article...
Florida got the message and implemented a model response. Despite its vast enclaves of long-term care homes, it reported under 750 deaths in them, or slightly more than one for each of its 615 facilities.

The striking contrast between Florida on one hand and New York and New Jersey on the other can be traced largely to policy decisions by their governors. Gov. Andrew Cuomo of New York and Gov. Phil Murphy of New Jersey issued almost identical orders in late March requiring nursing homes to accept COVID-19 patients being discharged from hospitals. The orders barred the homes from even asking if the patients had the virus, lest they be discriminated against.

Florida, thankfully, followed a different path. Gov. Ron DeSantis said his state moved early to protect the elderly because statistics from South Korea showed “that not all age groups were equally at risk” and that most deaths happened to “folks 65 and up.”

As a result, he allowed his nursing homes to reject hospital referrals who were still infected. More recently, Florida started sending infected residents in the opposite direction, from nursing homes to hospitals.

 

Sadly, evidently we do. Estimates are 1/3 of small businesses are toast.

 

But what about cuomo4president and disantisiskillingusall?

 

Blood on his hands cuomo, is laying it out for you.