Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

If he had taken all the reasonable steps and people still died, I wouldn't blame him, he did what he was supposed to do. But he didn't.

And I agree that there are some people who wouldn't give him credit if he cured cancer, they would just complain that he took too long.

 

There are far too many complete and utter morons in the world.

“A security guard at a Family Dollar store in Flint, Michigan, was shot and killed after telling a customer to wear a state-mandated face mask, police said.

Calvin Munerlyn, 43, died at a local hospital after he was shot in the head Friday, said Michigan State Police Lt. David Kaiser.

Witnesses at the store told police that Munerlyn got into a verbal altercation with a woman because she was not wearing a mask, said Genesee County prosecutor David Leyton. Surveillance video confirms the incident, Leyton said.


Footage also shows that immediately after the altercation, the woman left in an SUV. But about 20 minutes later, the SUV returned. Two men entered the store and one of them yelled at Munerlyn about disrespecting his wife, Leyton said. The other man then shot the security guard.”

 

you also know there is a huge portion of people who, if trump had taken quicker measures to combat this, enforced lockdowns would complain against that, like in michigan, people should think , if it was me making the decisions, what would i do, not openly criticize.

 

On February 23rd Trump said:

Q Have you been updated on the coronavirus, sir?

THE PRESIDENT: Yeah, we’re very much involved. We’re very — very cognizant of everything going on. We have it very much under control in this country.

The CDC said this on February 26th
"Ultimately, we expect we will see community spread in this country. It’s not so much a question of if this will happen anymore but rather more a question of exactly when this will happen and how many people in this country will have severe illness."

Meanwhile Kudlow said the virus was contained and was pretty "airtight" the day before.

 

I wonder if this is the first facemask induced shooting.

 

Personally I don't link any news sites if possible. I use them for sources and track down the actual quotes. My mistake if I was wrong about yours. The part where they said he was downplaying it and the whole "media star" rubbed me the wrong way (it implies he's doing things for fame).

 

Oh I’d still be against him overall. I’d be against him as a human being, but if he listened to his advisors instead of firing them and handled this as the experts instructed him to, I’d give him a pass even if there were 5 million deaths. He’s not a doctor, scientist, nor an epidemiologist. I wouldn’t expect him or any president to be fully prepared for this nor pass with flying colors. If the man showed any professionalism, accountability, or humility I think it would go a long way with his perception.

 

imo, certain not to be the last, like poster above said, there are utter morons in this country, any excuse will do for them to act.

 

Credit where credit is due: @dangolegators or @PerSeGator ...it was one or both of you...
US coronavirus: Influential model projects 135,000 deaths in US, nearly double its last estimate - CNN

I think doubling it overnight when the numbers appear to be dropping is odd, but you called this and it looks like you were on the right track.

I still think this lands at between 90k and 100K but definitely blowing past the numbers they were posting as you predicted.

 

The numbers are not dropping. NY/NJ are dropping but deaths are rising elsewhere. It is why we are still avg 2000 a day.

 

And now they're both going to go to prison for a very long time. That sounds like an easy murder 2 charge.

 

Excellent point @96Gatorcise!

It's one that many miss if focusing too exclusively on top level numbers. Because NY & NJ have been far out ahead in cases and deaths, if their numbers slow a bit, while other locations increase, it may look like things are slowing down, but where they are just shifting. It would be helpful for people to take NY/NJ out of the equation and look at the trends just based on the rest of the country. .

 

they have dropped nation wide 5 days in a row, how is that not progress?

 

This one is right on target

Unless there is a dramatic drop, I underestimated the rest of the month

 

Yes, that would of also have been helpful with the cases since they make up almost 40% of all cases.

 

Another coronavirus related death!

 

I hope you're right, but I think it's way too optimistic when we're still seeing 12-15k deaths a week, and everyone is jumping all over themselves to reopen quickly. With no definitive downward trend established, I fear we'll continue to oscillate around current levels for the foreseeable future. We could easily have 40-50k more deaths by the end of May.

 

Coronavirus deaths projected to hit 3,000 per day by June, internal Trump administration analysis says

 

Let's see where today falls. The 3 day rolling average is down over mid April.