Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Still can't do math. Try again.

 

much like your leader, you show enough of yourself that nobody else really needs to help

 

You have to pull out the cases at the bottom of the list that can’t be attributed to a specific state. I’m sorry that this is a blue state problem and you cannot accept this.

 

Not on the death totals.

 

Nope. I am just able to do basic arithmetic and have enough of a soul to not care what "color" state people come from as they die in the tens of thousands (btw, to help you out, because, as stated, this isn't the important part, there have been 14,133 deaths in "red" states as if that is important).

 

Higher population density areas, and areas exposed to more travel are going to get harder hit. That's a fact.

Those areas also run for the Dems. How is a higher death rate something to brag about? Why so much glee?

 

We'll never be able to time the perfect time to reopen, but it's going to take years to fully recover. Jumping the gun by a few weeks could lead a large, second-wave spike that would be worse than the first and cause everything to shut down once again. Look for the Time article linked back about Hokkaido, Japan, who did exactly that. Reopened too quickly, and now the second wave of cases are much higher than the first, businesses are closed again, and nobody is confident when the area will be able to reopen a second time.

The right time includes an extended period of reduced daily cases being reported plus the ability to widely test both for new cases and for antibodies. I can't put an exact date on it, but where in this country is this criteria being met right now? Maybe in a few, more isolated rural areas. But certainly not in urban and suburban areas.

 

IHME came up with a threshold rule for opening safely with proper procedures in place (which are not in place in most parts of the country right now). Here are their results:



Remember, IHME has been pretty optimistic in the past few weeks and has actually had to adjust their model to more deaths to match the data, so it is hard to argue that they are just being alarmist.

 

The point was Navy suggested he hand not heard of any stars threatening to leave if Trump won.
Numerous ones did. Some may have been tongue in cheek but they all were not.

 

I agree the reason they want them listed as COVID deaths is the extra cash they get from medicare(if they are medicare patients) and most are.

 

Ok, we'll just go with your numbers. Deaths and reported cases in Hillary states outnumber death and reported cases in Trump states by 3 to 1.

 

A few differences between H1N1 most people who were sick enough got tested so the total case count seems pretty accurate. With COVID we just now are testing for antibodies.... the majority who have antibodies (based on the numerous studies so 50-80% never have symptoms or have mild symptoms) as more antibody tests are done the mortality for COVID will drop dramatically.

 

There is a financial motivation to count them as COVID deaths......

 

Seattle vs NYC
Interesting contrasts in early choices by leadership and the consequences of those choices. By all practical measures NYC blew it
Waiting to respond likely doubled number of NYC deaths

Researchers in Washington went around CDC and did their own testing of swabs collected at random to study flu transmission in Seattle

Seattle’s Leaders Let Scientists Take the Lead. New York’s Did Not

 

Trump never said "drink bleach" or drink any disinfectants.

 

no, no, not cuomo making a mistake, cannot be true.

 

Including the suspected covid deaths, NY crossed .2 percent of its total population today. Without the suspected it’s .14.
And that is with only 20-25 percent of the city being infected, and with the sad understanding that some who are infected now will pass away and inflate those numbers.
So for NYC anyway, it will come in between .7 and 1 percent probably when all is said and done.

 

What is interesting also is look at the demographics of the dead in NYC/Seattle.
NYC is also a very dense population, perhaps amongst the highest in the US.
NYC much more mass transit.

I don't think it's as simple as Shutdown vs No shutdown

 

On top of that, the gotus thinks it's ok to send admitted covid + nursing home patients back from the hospital. Genius!