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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. buckeyegator

    buckeyegator Premium Member

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    again, correct me if i am wrong, do you not need a referall from a physician to get tested, i have no symptoms, i cannot just go get tested can i?
     
  2. 96Gatorcise

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    Lawyers for ousted U.S. health official say he will file whistleblower's complaint
     
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  3. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

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    Could you explain a little more? Does the virus cause blood clotting in the lungs specifically or just all over?
     
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  4. 96Gatorcise

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    Right now because there are not enough tests, once more tests are available as well as antibody tests available to businesses, more data will be available.
     
  5. ATLGATORFAN

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    For you stats guys out there, how large does the testing pool have to be to get accurate projections as of today ? I would imagine we have capability to test 3000-5000 people in Florida and or Texas and or Cali etc. we don’t need 30,000,000 tests. Seems like we should be long past guessing by now. What percentage of people have this. What percentage are dying. What are the demographics. Seems we should be able to get that within a couple weeks based on US data. Not speculation from other countries
     
  6. RIP

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    Yes you do because we still do not have enough tests. In order to get everyone back to work we will need to basically test everyone for the virus as well as antibodies (at least that's how I understand it). We also need to know how long the antibodies last.

    Anyone that knows more than me please correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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  7. Emmitto

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    We play "virtual" matches. You throw 20 rounds, video it (or if you have a healthy trust system, just report the results), then match up your throws with your opponent to figure out the winner. That was cool for about two days.

    And we play "Ghost", where the ghost gets a set number of points each throw (I am currently on Ghost 9). That was fun for about 20 minutes.

    I am ready to get back in rotation like everyone else.
     
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  8. ursidman

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    Also causing people with the virus to throw clots and cause some deaths.
     
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  9. dingyibvs

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    Not if they don't have other symptoms of COVID (Cough, fevers, shortness of breath).

    My estimate from the start was about 1%, which is also the number most models were going with. Hence the prediction of ~60% of the population getting infected with ~2 million deaths with business as usual.

    All over. Initially the focus was just on the lungs, for obvious reasons, and they found a lot more microclots than expected. Speculation then was that this may be causing some sort of pulmonary vasculitis rather than pure ARDS. Now with a lot more cases it appears that the clots are forming all over the body, so anticoagulation is now routinely given to patients even without confirmed clots.
     
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  10. 96Gatorcise

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    Do your arms look like Nadal's?

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  11. duchen

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    Because you claim that the doctors and MEs attributing cause of death are wrong. Whose word should we take, professionals or an anonymous internet poster who spreads false and dangerous information?
     
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  12. Emmitto

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    Well it's a one pound bag, so it'll take a while to produce that sort of imbalance. So wash-ups like me can be really good at it. Old dudes, and women for that matter, can dominate.
     
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  13. duchen

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    Your so called "common sense" does not substitute for science, fact statistics, and expertise.
     
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  14. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Santa Clara showed roughly 4.5% had antibodies. NY is showing 21%.

    I think the data can be read a couple ways...but regardless, this is great news as you state.
     
  15. buckeyegator

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    so if a doctor tells me i have 6 months to live, and i live for 20 more years, was that expert wrong, must have been, nobody is right 100% of the time, so to say all those deaths were from covid19 was wrong.
     
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  16. buckeyegator

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    how am i spreading false and dangerous information by saying not all the 3800 deaths attributed to covid19 were actually from it?
     
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  17. mutz87

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    We don't know the true number for NYC or any place for that matter, yet. But even if they were 21% more cases or even if it was 21% of the total NYC population, this would likely make them an outlier, just as they are an outlier in total cases/and per mil in the US.
     
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  18. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    You are not. You are also correct in saying the 3M with antibodies need to be added I to the equation at some point to make the data accurate. I assume in the end the numbers will be corrected both ways.

    My hope is that the fact that so many more may be surviving with little to no symptoms may lead us to a safe path to normalcy sooner than some have feared.
     
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  19. antny1

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    Same. And yes....the stores are ridiculously busy.
     
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  20. antny1

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