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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. ursidman

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    The instructor was awesome. She was skilled in both medical/scientific jargon and methods as well as writing. It was a Massive Open Online Course (there were 14,000 students in our class) and many people were somewhere in another country using the course to improve their English. We swapped and graded each other's essays and the ones from people struggling to learn English were difficult to grade (there were few I had to toss back into the pool)- but there were a few American Doctors that also struggled to communicate for all the medical jargon they wanted to use.
     
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  2. CharlestonGator

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    RIP:

    On a lighter note....Are massage parlors where ppl go where there is a happy ending?

    I think Murray Head said it best....
    "So you better go back to your bars, your temples
    Your massage parlours…"


    Sorry couldn't resist lol
     
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  3. gaterzfan

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    Sorry if my poor choice of terms was problematic. I should have deemed these to be shops and clinics, respectively. Personally, I see a need for both but use neither, personal choices.

    With regard to my characterization of people who would get a new tat during this “pandemic period”, I was being too general. If a person currently taking the appropriate measures to avoid infection desires to have work performed by a tattoo professional, I think that’s their choice and they would likely make that decision after weighing all pertinent factors.

    Hopefully all goes well with the reopenings in a Georgia.


     
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  4. dangolegators

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    Well from what I can tell Louisville is saying posters are criticizing Trump for not shutting the economy down in January. I haven't seen anyone say that though. There's a lot of things Trump could/should have done, but shutting down the country was not a realistic option in January. And unless he can point out a poster who is saying Trump should have shut us down in January, Louisville is just making a straw man there.
     
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  5. dangolegators

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    So IHME finally updated their projection, but to just 65,976 through Aug 4. That's still way low. It's gonna be well more than that.

    IHME | COVID-19 Projections
     
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  6. mutz87

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    It's why I'm doing some virtual social distancing from him. Too much nonense to his posts for me :)

    Agree with you. People haven't been criticizing Trump for not shutting things down in Januar. It's was for playing things down for a over a month, and lying and misnforming . He's just so full of sh*t that people have gotten used to the stank. But this is what is wrong with him and why he has failed the public and made the situation worse.
     
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  7. dingyibvs

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    Since physicians are the ones who make the call on cause of death, are you suggesting that there will be a widespread conspiracy by physicians to increase the COVID count?
     
  8. RIP

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    I have a very clean and reputable guy but I'm not setting foot in there until this thing is well down the slope. I do suspect the ones that do go get a new one as soon as possible are probably in the "this is overblown" camp though (or just young and dumb).
     
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  9. GatorNorth

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    That's a bit of a red herring question, and rife with value judgments. My wife has a law degree, tattoo and gets weekly therapeutic massages for an ankle replacement she had a few years ago. And hasn't left the house other than to go grocery shopping in 5 weeks.

    As a GA resident I can still tell you that our governor is truly an idiot by allowing these businesses to open while still keeping his statewide shelter in place order in effect until April 30.

    How can you do both?

    Let's shelter in place while we go bowling and for a massage afterwards? And Kemp did it as an emergency order, meaning it overrides local orders, so which order does local LEO enforce-the still in effect shelter in place order or the now you are allowed to re-open order?

    It's somewhat dumbfounding.
     
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  10. AzCatFan

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    Nobody said or is saying Trump should have shut down the economy in January. What we should have been doing is ramping up our testing capabilities and engaging in a test and isolate policy for all those who tested positive. And in February, everyone coming into the country with a confirmed case needed to be tested and quarantined. Instead, what we got in January was little to nothing, and in February, we got a month of Trump downplaying the virus and calling the D's response the next hoax to take down Trump's Presidency. It wasn't until March that Trump and team really took things seriously. By then, it was too late.

    And no, banning those with a Chinese passport but allowing dozens of planes that originated from China to land on a daily basis wasn't enough. Especially since the passengers weren't tested upon arrival nor quarantined.

    Today, it's a few governors making similar mistakes by trying to open things up too soon. The more people you come in contact with, the greater your risk of getting the disease. The more people the people you come in contact with, again, the greater the risk. If you see only 1 person a day, and that person only sees 5, your risk isn't that great. But if you see 1 person a day, and that person sees 100, that puts you at a much greater risk.

    We've flattened the curve because we have greatly limited the number of people we call contact on a daily basis. Open things back up and the only way to mitigate the greater risk is again, test and isolate. And contrary to what Trump says, we don't have enough testing materials right now to do this.

    The states that risk opening up too soon risk being exactly where they were a week ago, but with only more sick and dead people.
     
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  11. 96Gatorcise

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    Its going to be 65,000 by the 2nd/3rd week of May at current daily counts.
     
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  12. GatorNorth

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    If a massage therapist can give a happy ending from 6 feet away, then they're a helluva talent.
     
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  13. dangolegators

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    I think Kemp and DeSantis are having a contest to see who's dumber.
     
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  14. citygator

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    Only thing anyone remembers. Well done Nancy. Well done.
     
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  15. dangolegators

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    Yeah, the daily count will decline, but we are going to hit their projected number some time in May. Then we'll have more than 2 more months to the end of their projection time frame on Aug 4.
     
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  17. gaterzfan

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    Your post is a bit conflicted. On one hand you say the decision to reopen these particular businesses is “dumbfounding” but you seemingly indicate your wife will patronize both when they reopen. Interesting.

     
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  18. dangolegators

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    Where does he say that?
     
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  19. buckeyegator

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    according to worldometer 24428 new cases today, lowest since march 321, anyone care to explain?high death and low new case count are strange.
     
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  20. GatorNorth

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    You're conflating two concepts.

    The governor's decision to re-open businesses has nothing to do with my wife and everything to do with the fact that there is also a shelter in place order issued by the same governor that's still in effect. That's the dumbfounding piece. The orders seem to conflict with each other by telling people its OK to go bowling at the same time you've ordered them to shelter in place.

    I mentioned my wife in response to your earlier question, which was, in effect "how many people who ordinarily use these services were socially distancing in the first place". And the answer is, she was.

    Unless I misunderstood your question, no conflict at all, and I never said she was going back immediately.
     
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