Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

NYC was seeded earlier

 

Three Nordic neighbors. One of them never stopped going to restaurants and bars etc. That one, Sweden, has citizens dying at almost six times the rate of its neighbors.

Sweden had more people die today from COVID-19 than Finland or Norway have had dir from it in total all year.

One possible reason for the disparity is the significant difference in social distancing. Other factors could certainly be at play.

 

Not earlier than Washington State or California....

 

Did Trump act quickly on the virus? Did the Democrats join him? Check this timeline from Fox -- just facts. You judge...
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Jan. 6

• Trump’s Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a travel notice on Wuhan, China, before any U.S. infection arose.
• The Republican-controlled Senate’s one vote ended debate (86-5) on Jovita Carranza’s nomination to head the Small Business Administration.
• Pelosi’s Democrat-controlled House was out of session.

Jan. 17

• Trump’s CDC began enhanced screening for COVID-19 symptoms at three U.S. airports, in San Francisco, Los Angeles and New York's JFK. U.S. infections: Zero.
• Prohibited from addressing anything but Trump’s House Democrat-triggered impeachment trial, the Senate convened for 34 seconds, from 1:59:55 p.m. to 2:00:29 p.m.
• The House met for three minutes — from 10:30 a.m. to 10:33 a.m.

Jan. 20

• Trump’s CDC opened an emergency operations center after one U.S. COVID-19 patient was diagnosed.
• The Senate was out of session.
• The House was out of session.

Jan. 21

• Trump’s CDC expanded COVID-19 checks to airports in Chicago and Atlanta.
• The Senate rejected Democrat Leader Chuck Schumer’s 11 amendments related to Trump’s impeachment trial.
• The House met for two minutes — from 10 a.m. to 10:02 a.m.

Jan. 29

• President Trump chaired his Coronavirus Task Force and unveiled its members.
• The Senate impeachment trial continued.
• The House’s two recorded votes adopted the Student Borrower Credit Improvement Act and an anti-fentanyl bill.

Jan. 31

• One day after the World Health Organization declared COVID-19 a “Public Health Emergency of International Concern,” President Trump restricted travel from China. Former Vice President Joe Biden called this policy “hysterical xenophobia.” CDC began the first mandatory quarantines since the 1960s. Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar declared “a public health emergency in the United States.”
• Via six recorded votes, the Senate decided not to call witnesses in Trump’s impeachment trial.
• The House was out of session.

Feb. 2

• Trump’s CDC added Honolulu, Seattle and suburban Washington, D.C.'s Dulles airports to those already screening travelers from China.
• The Senate was out of session this Sunday. 
•  The House: Ditto.

Feb. 4 

• Trump’s Food and Drug Administration allowed emergency use of CDC’s COVID-19 test in non-CDC labs. “My administration will take all necessary steps to safeguard our citizens from” COVID-19, Trump said in his State of the Union address.
• The Senate met but took no votes.
• The House met, took no votes, hosted the State of the Union, and then adjourned.

Feb. 5

• Trump’s then-acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney and Secretary Azar briefed lawmakers on COVID-19. “Several House lawmakers of both major parties said the administration has the situation under control,” the Seattle Times reported.
• No surprise: The Senate acquitted Trump on two articles of impeachment, finally sinking Hate Trump, Inc.’s juggernaut that distracted Americans while COVID-19 slithered out of China.
• By voice vote, the House passed, among others, the Great Lakes Restoration Initiative, the USPS Fairness Act, and renamed a Detroit facility the Aretha Franklin Post Office Building. The House Foreign Affairs Committee held a hearing on “The Wuhan Coronavirus.”

Feb. 9

• Trump’s Coronavirus Task Force briefed the states' chief executives at the National Governors Association Meeting.
• The Senate was out of session this Sunday.
• The House: Likewise. 

Feb. 11

• Trump’s HHS  expanded collaboration with Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen Research & Development division to produce a COVID-19 vaccine.
• The Senate confirmed Andrew Lynn Brasher to the federal bench.
• The House passed the Smithsonian Women’s History Museum Act.

Feb. 18

• Trump’s HHS  offered expertise and funds to help Sanofi Pasteur develop a COVID-19 vaccine and treatments.
• The Senate was out of session. 
• The House met at 10:30 a.m. and adjourned at 10:31 a.m.

Feb. 26

• Trump  assigned  Vice President Mike Pence to lead the administration’s COVID-19 response.
• The Senate was out of session. 
• The House passed the Emmett Till Anti-Lynching Act, the G.I. and Veterans Education Empowerment Act, and ordered a study of the 550-mile Chief Standing Bear Trail from Nebraska to Oklahoma. 

Feb. 29

• Trump’s FDA let LabCorp, Quest, and other diagnosticians develop COVID-19 tests and liberated states to engage some 2,000 such laboratories. The administration discouraged travel to parts of South Korea and Italy and restricted arrivals from Iran.
• The Senate was out of session this Saturday.
• The House: The same.

March 3

• Trump thanked and invigorated staffers at the National Institutes of Health’s Vaccine Research Center in Bethesda, Md.
• The Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee held a hearing on “How the U.S. Is Responding to COVID-19.”
• By voice vote, the House condemned violence in the Central Africa Republic and passed the Malala Yousafzai Scholarship Act — to offer Pakistani women half of U.S. Agency for International Development’s Merit and Needs-Based Scholarships.

March 6

• Trump signed $8.3 billion in COVID-19 response funds approved by the House (415-2) on March 4 and the Senate (96-1) on March 5.
• The Senate was out of session.
• As was the House.

March 13

• Having restricted European arrivals two days earlier, Trump proclaimed a national emergency, unleashed $42 billion, forgave student-loan interest; deregulated telemedicine, interstate medical practice and the hiring of physicians at hospitals; and persuaded Costco, Walmart and other retailers to launch drive-thru COVID-19 tests. FDA let Roche and Thermo Fisher produce COVID-19 tests.
• The Senate was out of session.
• At 12:51 a.m. on March 14, the House passed (363-40) the $192 billion Families First Coronavirus Response Act, providing paid sick leave, free COVID-19 tests, and more.

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No, not facts: opinion. I can see why you didn't link the article because it wasn't filed as a factual news article, it was filed as an opinion piece, so it chose what to include and what to leave off to create a narrative without the need of a factual editor.

Deroy Murdock: Coronavirus timeline – Trump acted early and energetically, don't buy Dems' criticisms

 

Yes, hindsight being 20/20, he absolutely should have, because even the likes of AOC would have said he was insane for shutting the country down at that time and our numbers would look even better than they already do compared to most countries. But of course, the Dems then would have blamed Trump for the economy cratering. Unfortunately, there's no evidence that any world leader took such drastic action with their countries when they only had 10 cases. Hindsight is nice to think about, but reality is what we're dealing with.

 

Edit: accidental duplicate

 

Right, and that's always the way it's been counted. If the same patient tested positive for the flu, it'll be counted as a flu related mortality as it always has been.

 

Thanks - fixed it back in the original post. Typo / brain cramp. The Norway and Finland numbers are all year through today.

 

The timeline is FACTUAL. That's the part I posted. But thanks for dismissing facts that don't fit the anti-Trump propaganda.

 

I find that a grossly disingenuous accounting of trump's actions. I can create a favorable narrative on practically any topic by cherry picking and misattributing credit.

For example: "Trump’s CDC added Honolulu, Seattle and suburban Washington, D.C.'s Dulles airports to those already screening travelers from China."

But no mention of "trump's CDC" botching test development and distribution. Asymmetrical information tactics are indicative of really bad actors.

This is the worst spin I've seen all month. I think I'm going to throw up.

 

This was in response to accusations that he did not act quickly. It answers those definitively and positively.

Go ahead and puke if you want, though.

 

No, it isn't. It is a carefully curated narrative. So, for example, Trump traveled internationally during that time and dismissed this as something that would go away quickly. Where is that event in the factual timeline?

Where are the testing failures where we couldn't develop a test nearly as quickly as other countries and refused to utilize their tests?

Where is Trump saying that anybody that wants a test could get a test when we know that was and still is factually inaccurate?

Where are the Trump rallies where he put people into an arena directly as late as March?

Any of those in the "factual timeline?" Or were they left off because they didn't support the opinion? That is why this was not listed as a news article but as an "opinion article" because it is not a complete and factually driven selection of important events but rather a carefully curated selection of (often spins) on events to try to sell an opinion. A good example of this is the entry on March 6 where the author credits Trump for signing legislation passed by Congress on March 4 and then lists both chambers as out of session. Suspiciously absent, an entry for what was happening on March 4, when the Congress was passing it and Trump was...giving a 30 minute speech...and...well nothing else on the public schedule.

 

Okay. Since you want to go to war with that tripe.

• Tell me, line by line, how each of those savior actions materially impacted the spread and deaths.
• Show me where he implemented nation-wide mitigation and suppression practices during the first 3 months.
• Show me how he timely executed on the 2017 pandemic preparedness playbook.
• Show me where he acted ahead of the curve to procure tests, PPE and emergency capacity for hotspots.

Lastly, explain to me how he personally get credit for undirected HHS, FDA and CDC actions but "takes no responsibility" for anything. And how does signing bills from congress constitute a laudable "action".

I loathe fox's tactic here and anyone who perpetuates must, by definition, be trying to sell something or lacks critical thinking skills. And that's not intended to be a false dilemma... I can see no other alternatives.

uke:

 

From the poster that said journalists were dishonest LOL

 

I watched live, the impeachedpotus say we had 15 cases soon to be zero. He said we had it 100% under control as well.

 

Below is the same accounting with congress's actions removed because it shouldn't be included when applauding trump's actions. Also removed that pervasive trump credit for agency actions.

Does it still look like he did alot?

Jan. 6

• Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a travel notice on Wuhan, China, before any U.S. infection arose.

Jan. 17

• CDC began enhanced screening for COVID-19 symptoms at three U.S. airports, in San Francisco, Los Angeles and New York's JFK. U.S. infections: Zero..

Jan. 20

• CDC opened an emergency operations center after one U.S. COVID-19 patient was diagnosed.

Jan. 21

• CDC expanded COVID-19 checks to airports in Chicago and Atlanta.

Jan. 29

• President Trump chaired his Coronavirus Task Force and unveiled its members.

Jan. 31

• One day after the World Health Organization declared COVID-19 a “Public Health Emergency of International Concern,” President Trump restricted travel from China. CDC began the first mandatory quarantines since the 1960s. Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar declared “a public health emergency in the United States.”

Feb. 2

• CDC added Honolulu, Seattle and suburban Washington, D.C.'s Dulles airports to those already screening travelers from China.

Feb. 4 

• Food and Drug Administration allowed emergency use of CDC’s COVID-19 test in non-CDC labs. “My administration will take all necessary steps to safeguard our citizens from” COVID-19, Trump said in his State of the Union address.

Feb. 5

• White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney and Secretary Azar briefed lawmakers on COVID-19. “Several House lawmakers of both major parties said the administration has the situation under control,” the Seattle Times reported.

Feb. 9

• Coronavirus Task Force briefed the states' chief executives at the National Governors Association Meeting.

Feb. 11

• HHS  expanded collaboration with Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen Research & Development division to produce a COVID-19 vaccine.

Feb. 18

• HHS  offered expertise and funds to help Sanofi Pasteur develop a COVID-19 vaccine and treatments.

Feb. 26

• Trump  assigned  Vice President Mike Pence to lead the administration’s COVID-19 response.

Feb. 29

• FDA let LabCorp, Quest, and other diagnosticians develop COVID-19 tests and liberated states to engage some 2,000 such laboratories. The administration discouraged travel to parts of South Korea and Italy and restricted arrivals from Iran.

March 3
March 6

• Trump signed $8.3 billion in COVID-19 response funds approved by the House (415-2) on March 4 and the Senate (96-1) on March 5.

March 13

• Having restricted European arrivals two days earlier, Trump proclaimed a national emergency, unleashed $42 billion, forgave student-loan interest; deregulated telemedicine, interstate medical practice and the hiring of physicians at hospitals; and persuaded Costco, Walmart and other retailers to launch drive-thru COVID-19 tests. FDA let Roche and Thermo Fisher produce COVID-19 tests.

I was tempted to add the golf, travel and rallies but, who cares. IMHO, the things he DIDN'T do during this period should be a stain, forever. People died because of his ineptitude and stupid fox sophistry doesn't change that fact.

 

H1N1 killed a total of 12k people in the US, and that was with no lock down. It isn’t comparable to this.

I won’t get into the math if it all, but the best case scenario for the Mass study which said that 32 percent were infected already probably yields a mortality rate of .6%. And that’s assuming they didn’t have a test that picked up other corona viruses, or that the fact that they were asking people on the street (younger and more likely to have it if they were out) and not those sequestered skewed the sample. But with those numbers, if half the country got infected, that’s one million deaths, give or take. NYC is already at a death rate of .17 percent across its entire population, with likely the majority if not most still not infected and many more already infected who will pass away. Put another way, there are already at 1.5 times the total number of H1N1 deaths nationally in NYC alone and they aren’t even close to done. And that’s with a lockdown.
And the problem with sequestering those who can’t afford to get it is that it still gets to them if everyone else has it. There was a nursing home in NJ last week that lost 70 people with many more still sick.
Is this thing the end of the world? No. Do we need to give it the respect it deserves? Yes. It is real, even if most of us would come through it fine.