Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Don't really understand the rub. Romney himself voted to oust Trump from his job, but Trump can't decline to put Romney on a Congressional committee? This is what irks me with the Trump haters. Blatant double-standard. Hell, that's worse than a double-standard.

 

Correct, it was left to the media and others to share this limited/flawed study to those seeking good news and not detail orientated enough to miss the fact that it means nothing of substance to them.

 

Romney voted to hold him accountable for his illegal actions. Trump chose to take those actions. Trump will only accept yes as an answer. That is a fundamental flaw that will/has led to calamitous acts and isolation from our allies.

 

Lame. I didn’t wish him ill. Is that even a power? Clearly if they aren’t necessary according to Newt then he won’t get sick.

 

He put 52 of the 53 Republican Senators on the committee and acknowledged that Romney’s exclusion was not related to his qualifications, but related to his personal animosity toward Romney - “not a fan”.

If you think that’s ok - okie doke.

 

This is all you libs faults...had you not re-elected Obama, then Romney would be POTUS right now and Trump would be firing people on a reality show.

 

Wishing someone ill is not a power. It is an emotion. You also seemed to state that emotion in your post. I willing to be corrected if I misread.

 

Missed the target hit the tree. If we didn’t run Hillary Trump would not be president.

 

Hey, I voted for Romney the last time and I’d vote for him again.

 

Was specifically asked about this in his press conference yesterday and confirmed that it wasn't about getting the job done, it was about sticking it to Romney.

President Trump says he left Mitt Romney off economic task force because he holds grudge over impeachment vote

 

Why would anyone expect an impeachedpotus to utilize the unique experience of a Governer/Senator in what is America's greatest crises in decades, if he can play personal grudge games.

 

I didn’t really read the Stanford study, but earlier I noted how one of its authors, John Ioannidis, is one of the world’s great statisticians.

Now I will note, without really reading the criticism closely, that one of the study’s major critics, Andrew Gelman, is also one of the world’s great statisticians.

Sounds like the Stanford group is incorporating some of the feedback in the analysis, so we will soon be able to see what their new draft says.

 

I loath republicans. That's not to say that there are no individual republicans I respect. There are a very small number of them -- Amash, Romney, DeWine... But in general, yes, I loath republicans.

 

Agreed 100%.

I would add that the loathing isn’t based so much on any policy, as it is the political strategies and tactics that some of these GOP figures take. Distract distract distract. They are basically an organized crime ring at this point.

I loathe any Democrat that gets caught insider trading or acting corruptly just the same. But as of this moment in our history, the level of corruption between the parties is not even close. However, so long as the GOP is able to maintain single issue evangelical voters and dangle the abortion issue before them, there is effectively no check on their total corruption, and that’s why they do the song and dance. They literally have the U.S. in a death spiral, and that’s ok because poorer, less educated, and more religious voters actually works for them. Can’t get any easier than to manipulate a single issue voter.

 

As politicians or just the dude living across the street that you talk to while the kids ride there bikes?

I will not fault anyone for loathing most politicians in general.

 

We are not manipulated as much as conflicted. A manipulated voter is unaware.
I get that they dangle SCOTUS nominees for votes, but I also get that my vote gets me the SCOTUS nominee that I want.

I am completely aware. Thus why I am conflicted....but not manipulated.

 

So you are aware you are being manipulated, that this is their standard playbook, and knowingly go along with it anyway. That actually makes your position worse in my view vs. someone who doesn’t know better.

 

i think we have gotten way off point on this thread, its about coronavirus, not why you hate republicans, democrats, politicians in general, maybe that needs a thread of its own.

 

Well, I mean if you are dug in that way then fine.
But , no my position is not "worse".

I am not being manipulated at all. That is the opposite of what I said.

I am aware they are manipulative, but that does not mean it works. I am not fooled.
I was casting de facto judicial branch votes in 2016. Simple. Trump is a means to an end.
Only one option gives me what my moral code calls for in that regard.

Voting for Hillary would have violated my moral code in multiple ways as well, while leaving me with a potential lifetime of liberal judges.

We can't vote for the Judicial Branch, so our POTUS vote is a de facto judicial vote.

That said, I am conflicted as I hate that in order to secure the judicial branch long term, I am forced to choose a clown in the short term.

Just saying I am manipulated does not make it so.

There is nuance in everything. This is just another example.