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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    COVID-19 #CoronaVirus Infographic Datapack — Information is Beautiful

    Regardless of where it falls in the box, and it is possible this has a relatively higher R0 and a relatively lower death rate or a relatively higher death rate and relatively lower R0, the closest comparison is still Spanish Flu.

    Without proper testing, we won't be able to answer the question and further narrow that box.
     
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  2. 14serenoa

    14serenoa Living in Orange and surrounded by Seminoles... VIP Member

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    I'm banking on our President's hunch the virus will disappear in the summer...
     
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  3. 14serenoa

    14serenoa Living in Orange and surrounded by Seminoles... VIP Member

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    an employee at my grocery store just tested positive...I was there one week ago...25% had no masks including some employees. I will find a new store.
    Orlando
     
  4. RIP

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    I think you mean April :p
     
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  5. NavyGator93

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    Not sure if this was posted yet, but interesting and a bit worrisome. Asymptomatic cases on the Roosevelt around 60%, higher than originally thought.

    Coronavirus clue? Most cases aboard U.S. aircraft carrier are symptom-free
    Roughly 60 percent of the over 600 sailors who tested positive so far have not shown symptoms of COVID-19, the potentially lethal respiratory disease caused by the coronavirus, the Navy says. The service did not speculate about how many might later develop symptoms or remain asymptomatic.

    “With regard to COVID-19, we’re learning that stealth in the form of asymptomatic transmission is this adversary’s secret power,” said Rear Admiral Bruce Gillingham, surgeon general of the Navy.
     
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  6. 14serenoa

    14serenoa Living in Orange and surrounded by Seminoles... VIP Member

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    I cannot imagine being on a cruise ship without vaccines being required for all crew and passengers...
     
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  7. 14serenoa

    14serenoa Living in Orange and surrounded by Seminoles... VIP Member

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    I updated the hunch...on a hunch.
     
  8. gatorknights

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    The Clermont or Mt. Dora Publix perhaps...?
     
  9. duchen

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  10. ncargat1

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    It will be good to understand in 5-10 years to understand the density of virus particles that one has to be exposed to for that person to develop symptoms. I mean surely there is not some 60-70% of the population that are simply naturally immune, right?
     
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  11. g8trjax

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    Is it possible the antibody test is picking up a different corona virus?
     
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  12. rivergator

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    I'm amazed how many store employees are not wearing masks.
     
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  13. 14serenoa

    14serenoa Living in Orange and surrounded by Seminoles... VIP Member

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    maybe they need the time off...
     
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  14. dangolegators

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    If the R0 is higher and thus the death rate is lower, it doesn't really change much with regards to total number of deaths for now. If 200 million people end up getting infected with a mortality rate of .1% (like flu), that's 200,000 deaths. If 20 million end up getting infected with a mortality rate of 1%, that's 200,000 deaths. I would think though that a higher infection rate with a lower mortality rate would be better in the long term though, assuming infection provides immunity.

    I still think we will end up with more than 100k deaths for this year though either way.
     
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  15. 14serenoa

    14serenoa Living in Orange and surrounded by Seminoles... VIP Member

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    east orange county publix and...one on south orange ave.
     
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    LouisvilleGator is Dr. Phil :eek:
     
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  17. saltygator

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    I may have just "tinkled" in my pants a little
     
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  18. dangolegators

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    Right wing ignorance is gonna make this crisis a lot worse than it could have been. As these people start flouting common sense social distancing, more of them are going to die. And Trump is now encouraging them to do just that.
     
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  19. jeffbrig

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    I've mentioned this before, but my wife picked up an awful virus in London at the end of December - fever, cough, loss of smell, and it was thought to be some type of viral pneumonia at the time. It put her on her ass for a few days, but she got through it. I picked up the cough a few days later, but it was mild for me.

    Our primary care doctor called us this morning with news that their office had acquired some antibody tests. This is a concierge doctor we use through medVIP. My wife was able to go in today and had blood drawn for the test. They offered to test me too, but I figured I'd wait till she gets her results. If she doesn't show antibodies, there's no need to waste a test on me. They said they had plenty, but thanked me for trying to conserve tests for others that might have greater need.
     
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  20. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    I quoted a Stanford scientist yesterday...and. CNN health article last week.

    Now today a study from Santa Clara claiming that 40 times more people may have it which would drive the death rate below 1%. So...at least 3 (2 from Stanford and 1 from CNN) are saying it is extremely possible.

    Also deaths show up much earlier in data than recoveries. The death rate will drop dramatically as all these people are considered recovered. Very few are being cleared yet. That math is out there too.

    Antibody research indicates coronavirus may be far more widespread than known

    Novel coronavirus death rate is lower than previously reported, study says, but it's still deadlier than seasonal flu - CNN
     
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