Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

You're just perpetuating a lie to further your political agenda. And when you compare us to countries with much smaller populations, it just goes to show how far you have to reach to attempt to keep your lie somewhat cohesive. But you're lying and you know it.

 

Okay, let me know when we get to 1,000 cases. I have been right from the beginning. You were wrong. I don't know if you were lying or ignorant, but it was one of the two. You would think missing as badly as you did would allow you to develop a bit of humility and re-think things. Apparently not. You just keep digging instead.

If you wish to dispute my point that testing needs are a function of disease spread and that we took a long time to ramp up production that cost us a chance to stop this early on, feel free to provide data and make an argument. If not, we will file it under another of your long string of misses.

 

Total number of tests is one thing. Timing of the tests is another variable. Which scenario do you think would be better in controlling the outbreak of COVID-19? Testing 8,000 in a population of 100,000 within the first 2 weeks of the first case being identified, and then isolating all those who tested positive for at least two weeks. Or testing 12,000 in the same population, but not starting until 3 weeks after the first case was identified?

The answer is the first scenario, even though a higher percentage of the population has been tested in the second. And the reason is, the the second scenario, the disease had the ability to spread without any measures to stop the spread. The first scenario is what S. Korea did. The second is what the US is doing.

 

Not being sarcastic, being factual. Pop is 364,000, they have tested 37,000+

Here is a nice write up. The guy in the article was interviewed on CNBC this morning, that is how I knew about it.

Article on COVID-19 in Iceland in New England Journal of Medicine

 

The funny part of the "but they are so small so it was easy" argument is that it ignores the fact that they also have far fewer resources by which to implement a mass testing scheme. Think about those chemicals needed to transport. Who do you think is going to be able to acquire those chemicals on the world market or produce enough themselves: the US or Iceland?

 

The article and study they did is interesting. They discovered 290 strains of the virus not found elsewhere.

 

I don't really agree about most having common sense with viral issues. I'm sure plenty have looked up how to stuff but judging from the sheer number of those breaking rules in public I think we could use a how to. Also I believe the time used to inform the public would be more beneficial than reading a huge list of corporations and CEOs. The sooner everyone gets on board the quicker we call all go back to normal. Just my $.02 though.

 

Here is the study done in Iceland.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2006100?query=featured_home

 

get ready for a huge jump in active cases, why, because now states can count a person who they think has covid 19, even without testing, as active.so, i guess if i am counted as maybe being infected, then i test and am confirmed infected, i get counted twice.i guess they will now count the 3700 people who they say died from covid 19 without a test as a active case, since you cannot die from covid 19 if you did not have it.to sum up, if anyone snezzes, coughs, or has a fever you are covid 19 positive, and anyone who dies without a test is a covid 19 death, anything to ramp up the numbers to make their initial estimates not look so foolish.

 

I sorta classify those not presently following prudent social interaction procedures to be on par with those that smoke or ride motorcycles without proper gear. Regardless of what they are told, they are not going to be “smart about it”.

 

You can insult me all you want, as though you've never been wrong before about anything in your life, but it won't change the fact that you're lying about the testing situation in our country right now. Stop lying.

 

Alright, folks, enough is enough. Stop with the calling each other liars.

 

I was incorrect about their population, but I'm even less impressed that a country of 364,000 has tested 10% of their population for a virus. That is nothing more than cherry picking a small sample size. And the thing is, I think you guys know that.

 

Not sure where you're seeing this confirmed, but I don't doubt you. We gotta perpetuate narratives that we know aren't true to get Orange Man outta there. Whatever it takes.

 

And, I’ve ridden my motorcycle without a helmet and it is a bad idea. Really dumb.

 

Considering their resources and production capacity, it is actually impressive. Which makes the USA's numbers less impressive. We have huge production capacity and the ability to quickly resource needed materials but can't seem to ramp anything up in a timely manner.

 

When it's blatant, it needs to be called out. We have now tested a higher percentage of our population than has France and the UK. France is notable, because the WHO told us they have the #1 ranked healthcare system in the entire world. So if we're beating them to the punch on testing, we're doing pretty good all things considered. You can't force people to get tested, but 99% of the ones who need to be tested can get tested pretty quickly here. The idea that we have this massive waiting list of people wanting to get tested here is a lie and you know as well as I do, that is the narrative certain ones here are perpetuating. It's simply not true.

France's health-care system was ranked as the world's best—Here's how it compares with the US'

 

Yes, hence the reason we've doubled the 2nd highest country in number of tests administered and have tested a higher percentage of our population than the WHO's #1 healthcare system in the world, France.

 

There are other words you can use if you don't think someone is telling the truth but we are not going to allow derogatory name calling. That's not up for debate.

 

I never used the word "liar". Never called him a name. Said he was "lying" and he is. I suppose I could put a happier spin on that, but when it's that blatant, I feel it deserves to be called out. But I never called him a derogatory name.