Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

A myth?

Declaration of a National Emergency with Respect to the 2009 H1N1 Influenza Pandemic

That's an official WH declarative...it's in the archives forever. I can't stand people that won't read the articles people link (sometimes that means me). Obama gave only 1 such national emergency on Oct 23. There were 3 before that by the Secretary of Health and Human Services, dated Apr 26, July 24, and Oct 1. Public emergencies don't need the President's authority but the national emergency does require it. Most articles only talk about his national emergency, not the 3 prior public emergencies that were released by the Secretary of HHS.

I'm also giving stats comparing the initial months of both and H1N1 is kicking the shit out of this virus within the same time period.

 

Millennials could be getting their chance to wipe out the boomers and what do they do with it? Put on a mask and run for the hand sanitizer.

 

^^^^ And not once did I ever bash Obama. I was bashing people and the media. Anyone take a gander what the Pandemic of 2009 did to the markets? The markets grew at 18.8% during the 2009 year. Only in a 2 week period in late June 2009 did the markets tank, 800 points in total, from 8,800 to 8,100, a 10% drop. But from that point on, the markets kept climbing until the DOW hit 10,600 late Jan 2010.

 

Well, they are going to wish they did. I wonder how many boomers will be retiring now that their portfolios and 401ks tanked 30%? This might completely kill the chances of Millennials taking over the boomer jobs if boomers have to continue to work for another 5 to 10 years.

 

Consumer advocate Clark Howard:

 

wait until it hits Sicily... Death tolls are going to be crazy, the hospitals there are awful, you get better treatment from a high school nurse.

 

If they did, the key issue would be that they should be compelled to pay back the money. I think with the auto bailout they paid back nearly 90%.

But my concern is more about individuals.

 

Yeah I should have dug a little further before replying to your post I'll take a lap. The new virus was outpacing H1N1 until the swine flu hit day ~60. Now that we're around day 70 and more testing is happening it will be interesting to see if COVID-19 take a huge leap. I'm damn sure hoping not.

 

It doesn't matter that more people get the flu. It doesn't matter what death statistics are for other infectious diseases. What matters is that we don't have any antivirals or vaccines and that this novel coronavirus spreads easily and can last on surfaces for many days, so we don't have a good way to control or slow the pandemic yet. I get that people are looking for comparisons because it helps to understand a certain aspect of danger or risk to one's health, but the alarm and danger over death is not about total numbers but about possibly avoidable deaths in vulnerable populations in which healthy people who get sick but live can easily spread the virus to these populations.This is where all the alarm is coming from.

 

Excellent post. Didn't see it when I posted my response.

 

The only effective way to contain Corona is what they did in China, which is complete, total quarantine. The Chinese government basically told the 50 million people who live in Wuhan to stay at home, which they did. The virus could then only be transmitted to family members of those already infected, but couldn't move between families. And those were the new cases in the city. Draconian, but effective.

Italy is now under a full lockdown, but it's not as Draconian as China. Travel is still allowed, as long as it can be proven a necessity. There are still flights leaving Italy and people can still go get food from outside the home.

In NY State, they have deployed the National Guard, but there is no restriction in and out of the "hot zone." The Guard is only warning people and being used to deliver food/supplies to those who have decided to self-quarantine.

The fear with Corona is a person can be infected for days and transmit the disease without showing a single symptom. If quarantine aren't forced, there will likely be people who are infected, feel fine, who will go out and infect others. Then there's also the issue of not having enough tests in the US, so we honestly don't know truly how many cases there are in the country.

Now, if you're under 60 and in relative good health, you have little to worry about. But if you are in the higher-risk group, interact with anyone in the high-risk group, or know anyone in a high-risk group, you should still try and stop the spread of the disease. Doubt we'll ever be as Draconian as China. So where does that leave us?

 

I hate to be a Debbie Downer,,,,,

I don’t think there’s any way the US can stop the spread of the virus.

I see it making its rounds.

I hope I’m wrong.

 

If, in fact, it was effective. We can't be sure at this point, but time will tell.

 

The director for the Center for Infectious Disease Research conservatively estimates that the US could see up to 50,000,000 hospitalizations and 480,000 deaths over the next 3-7 months. Yikes if true.

 

That’s laughable.

 

I sure hope you are right but this isn't exactly some talking head.

Michael T. Osterholm, PhD, MPH

 

Something tells me this guy is hoping for a worst case scenario.

The disease expert who warned us (opinion) - CNN

 

What part of that interview gave you that opinion?

 

You can start with the title and the first two paragraphs. This guy has been waiting 15 years to be right about the inevitable pandemic.

 

Or go to the titty bar together. Heck, you could meet up and buy the lottery tickets together and go to the titty bar after that!!!