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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. citygator

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    The WH plan to reopen America starting to leak out..

    CDC, FEMA have created a plan to reopen America. Here’s what it says.
    The plan lays out three phases: Preparing the nation to reopen with a national communication campaign and community readiness assessment until May 1. Then, the effort through May 15 would involve ramping up manufacturing of testing kits and personal protective equipment and increasing emergency funding. Then staged reopenings would begin, depending on local conditions. The plan does not give dates for reopenings but specified “not before May 1.”


    The first priority, according to the CDC response document, is to “reopen community settings where children are cared for, including K-12 schools, daycares, and locally attended summer camps, to allow the workforce to return to work. Other community settings will follow with careful monitoring for increased transmission that exceeds the public health and health care systems.”

    The document also says that during phased reopenings, it is critical to strictly follow recommendations on hand-washing and wearing face coverings in group settings.

    The plan also carries this warning: “Models indicate 30-day shelter in place followed by 180 day lifting of all mitigation results in large rebound curve — some level of mitigation will be needed until vaccines or broad community immunity is achieved for recovering communities.”

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  2. ncargat1

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    If we are waiting until May 1 to "ramp up manufacturing of test kits", then what the frick have we been doing the past 2 months?
     
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  3. NavyGator93

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    Interesting. Denmark was starting with the kids too, heard the story this morning.
     
  4. 96Gatorcise

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    Actually its an admission of the failure of his administration.
     
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  5. GatorGuyDallas

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    I’m hoping that’s just poor translation or communication. I’ve been banging this drum for awhile.

    We need to know how many tests are needed to test and trace. They have not said.

    We need to know when that needed capacity will be online.

    Hopefully the formal rollout will provide some answers.
     
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  6. ncargat1

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    On the news other night they claimed that US based companies are capable of 60,000 kits per month. If true, the nation will not be ready to "re-open" until about 2026!
     
  7. GatorGuyDallas

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    There are supply line shortages of reagents, swabs, tubes and other things needed for massive testing.

    Adding to the confusion is there are two types of testing being discussed and muddled.

    Antibody testing does not help at all with contact tracing. It says you had it, not have it. It’s useful for telling people they can safely go to work.

    Then we need the other testing that says if you have it and should isolate and tell us your contacts we need to test.

    We have not heard the need or production capacity for either.

    I’m all for going back to work. But any talk of dates should come after they explain how testing capacity drove the dates.

    We should all hope some explanation on that front is coming soon.
     
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  8. OklahomaGator

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    Updated stats from this morning at 8 am edt. 10 states with just 1-2 deaths yesterday and 5 states with no deaths. Wyoming still has just 1. 6 states with less than 10.

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  9. SeabudGator

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    Yes, there are posts just attacking Trump ("he is a narcissist") or attacking him for non-virus related reasons. However, it appears that the posts above yours were attacking trump for the authors position that Trump was doing something stupid on the virus (defunding the WHO, total authority, lying about testing, etc., etc.). It is fair to keep the thread on point about the virus, but it is unfair to scold posters fairly attacking Trump for their belief that Trump's responses to the virus are wrong. Especially when the guy keeps shooting himself (and all of us) in the foot (my opinion) every day on TV, so criticizing his most recent daily reaction is fair game. And others have noted that you can be sensitive to criticism of Trump. Just an observation.
     
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  10. philnotfil

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    Keep in mind this is out of date, the other numbers haven't changed, but covid19 deaths per million are about double now (79 per million) from what they were on this graph.
     
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  11. G8trGr8t

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    Average death rate % for country just keeps going up. Not good as more tests should be bringing it down
     
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  12. 96Gatorcise

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    More info and facts that will be willfully ignored.
     
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  13. philnotfil

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/trump-kushner-could-reap-pandemic-windfall/

     
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  14. Emmitto

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  17. tilly

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  18. citygator

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    I wonder if today is the day the market starts to realize the devastation of the virus? WSJ front page is all terrible news except the recent returns of investors. We need an economic thread for the virus. So far comments end up in the unemployment posts which are not always new news.

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  19. tilly

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    Stupid move on his part...but the Treasury Dept is claiming there will be no delay. I mean seriously, this is 2020. They can put his picture on it surrounded by super models in about 5 seconds.
     
  20. gaterzfan

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    7.5 million small businesses are at risk of closing, report finds

    Nearly 7.5 million small businesses are at risk of closing their doors permanently over the next several months if the coronavirus pandemic persists, according to a survey.

    Around two-thirds of entrepreneurs said they may have to shut forever if business disruption continues at its current rate for up to five months, according to a survey published Tuesday by Main Street America, a network of more than 1,600 commercial districts comprising 300,000 small businesses.

    More than 30% are at risk if the status quo persists for two months, according to the survey, which polled in excess of 5,850 small business owners.

    These figures point to 3.5 million small businesses closing permanently in the next two months, and 7.5 million over the next five months, according to Main Street America.

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