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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

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    To clarify, those are daily numbers. Some nearby states (MN) are a fraction of those numbers. Not sure why MI and the Detroit area became such a hot spot. They are at 9300 cases and 337 deaths according to this site:
    Coronavirus - Coronavirus
     
  2. GatorJMDZ

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    Sadly, not a surprise...Dr. Fauci requiring incresed security in light of threats.

    "Fauci has become a public target for some right-wing commentators and bloggers, who exercise influence over parts of the president’s base. As they press for the president to ease restrictions to reinvigorate economic activity, some of these figures have assailed Fauci and questioned his expertise.

    Last month, an article depicting him as an agent of the “deep state” gained nearly 25,000 interactions on Facebook — meaning likes, comments and shares — as it was posted to large pro-Trump groups with titles such as “Trump Strong” and “Tampa Bay Trump Club.”

    Anthony Fauci’s security is stepped up as doctor and face of U.S. coronavirus response receives threats
     
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  3. citygator

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    She said that as far as mortgage support goes there was nothing out there yet and it was a voluntary action by Wells. Seemed entirely like she was winging it.
     
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  4. PITBOSS

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    It’s awful many repub leaders (trump) act tough but when we need strong leadership they bend with the wind with whATever is popular. Like Fox News. These weak leaders will cost lives.
     
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  5. GatorJMDZ

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  6. mutz87

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  7. AndyGator

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    Trump scrong in the Tampa Bay club? Did I read that right?
     
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  8. oragator1

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    Which is why I stressed Ny and NJ specifically. The point I was making numbers wise is pretty staggering.
    Italy and Spain have a combined population of 106 million or so. NY and NJ have a combined population of 28 million roughly. Spain and Italy are considered the 2 hardest hit places in the world, and despite being roughly 1/4 of their combined population, NY/NJ combined almost equaled them in cases yesterday. Some of that could be a function of testing levels and yes Italy is slowly starting down the ladder thankfully, but even if you look at deaths from today, NY/NJ had a higher death rate per capita than Spain and Italy combined did. Thankfully the overall death rate is lower here, or it would be even uglier.
    Hope it turns around for them soon, it’s truly terrible there. And the infected from there are going to spread it, it’s a giant national incubator.
     
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  9. channingcrowderhungry

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    Basically as long as you aren't a hair stylist you can still work.
     
  10. citygator

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    Laura Ingraham underestimates her viewers. She spent months saying it was a hoax. Now she’s pushing the idea the virus is much more penetrated into society than we know and millions are now walking around immune and should get back to work. She also pushed the unproven drug treatments. o_O

    Did have an interesting guest with 70 Cov19 patients. Said only seriously ill ones were elderly, diabetic, pre diabetic, and BMI’s over 30.5. The implication: Everyone else back to work.
     
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  11. GatorJMDZ

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    2000 ventilators waiting for someone to tell them where to ship them; Pentagon offers 16 of its certified labs for testing....crickets.

     
  12. RIP

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    I believe he means that if you get sick enough to need the vent survival chances are low. I've heard more optimistic numbers (50% survival rate depending on comorbidities). It's not that the vents are shitty it's just that the disease can be that bad.
     
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  13. gatorknights

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    My niece who is in the military was stationed in Wyoming and she loved it.
     
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  14. NavyGator93

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    Not exactly the brain trust.
    Of course they threatened the Doc. If you don’t suck up to trump, you are clearly anti-American.
     
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  15. gatorstevelp

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    Gotcha. France has a 15% serious/critical to active case ratio where Italy is 5% and Spain is around 8% so they may be next to have a large increase in daily deaths. Thankfully we are only at 2.5% at this time but I'm sure that will be increasing,
     
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  16. gatorstevelp

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    The 20% number seems really low to what I have read as well. I wonder what the ventilator survival percentages are for those that were otherwise healthy before being infected with COVID-19?
    EDIT: Looked up a couple of ventilator units within hospitals and the survival rate is normally around 80%. An example is Temple University studying 182 consecutive patients over 3.5 years. Mean age was 64 years old and mean number of days on ventilator was 54 days. Thus the mortality rate was much lower than I thought.
     
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  17. Emmitto

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    You get on the ventilator when the lungs are no longer sustaining you, i.e., you're dying.
     
  18. Bazza

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  19. orangeblue_coop

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    Deplorables gonna deplorable.
     
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  20. Bazza

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