Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. LouisvilleGator

    LouisvilleGator GC Hall of Fame

    1,180
    189
    1,933
    Oct 16, 2012
    The virus is still new.

    Fauci told ABC News Sunday there are 75,000 virus test kits in the United States, but that number will "radically" increase in the next couple of weeks.

    On Thursday, Vice President MIke Pence said the U.S. did not have enough tests "to meet what we anticipate will be the demand going forward." But the vice president said kits for 1.2 million should be available next week, the BBC reported

    They can't just snap their fingers and give everybody a test. Hindsight is always 20/20. Still, I'm sure there are certain thresholds that have to be met with any virus before the CDC starts spending millions on testing. I'm confident this is no different than the way they've handled any other viral outbreak. That's the whole point.. you're expecting massive testing for an entire nation over something that, until less than a week ago, had only 16 infections that were not people who had been stuck together on a cruise ship. They can't order tests en masse for every little ailment that floats around. Logistically, that is completely unrealistic.
     
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 1
  2. LouisvilleGator

    LouisvilleGator GC Hall of Fame

    1,180
    189
    1,933
    Oct 16, 2012
    What can you say? Some people just enjoy being scammed.
     
  3. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

    15,790
    2,036
    1,718
    Dec 9, 2010
    First, let me know when one of your predictions becomes true. So I'll take your claims on credibility with the complete lack of credibility of the source.

    Second, it is amazing how the "mistakes" (and it is almost universally accepted that we aren't running testing well) happens to steer into the narrative the political people are serving up about the lack of cases. There is a reason that he put a political person in charge of response instead of a professional.
     
    • Winner Winner x 2
  4. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

    15,790
    2,036
    1,718
    Dec 9, 2010
    So a few reactions:

    1. What is Michael Dominguez's background in medicine or infectious diseases?
    2. Do you think that his role as CEO of a hotel chain, not normally a position held by public health experts, might have something to do with this? Is he motivated to take a certain position here by his bottom line?
    3. What is his basis for saying 1/100,000? That seems completely baseless. Also, anybody with a basic background in this would say that a number that takes your risk in already getting this (which, he doesn't even quote correctly) and determining that to be your risk going forward is nonsense.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  5. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

    15,790
    2,036
    1,718
    Dec 9, 2010
    Indeed. Most of us would prefer not to get our disease risk assessments from hotel chain CEOs.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  6. dangolegators

    dangolegators GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 26, 2007
    The risk of being stuck by lightning in a given year is 1 in 700,000. We don't know what the risk of getting coronavirus is because it's just getting started. It might end up being 1 in 100,000 or it might end up being 1 in 10.
     
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Agree Agree x 1
  7. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

    31,143
    11,994
    3,693
    Aug 26, 2008
    We only know about the people that have symptoms bad enough to require hospitalization and testing. If they tested everybody in Wuhan the number infected would likely be exponentially higher
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  8. mutz87

    mutz87 p=.06 VIP Member

    38,229
    33,866
    4,211
    Aug 30, 2014
    That might be true currently but since authorities don't have a complete grasp of the outbreak, it is a misleading comparison. As the outbreak continues to grow, the likelihood of being infected goes up. Authorities have been hesistant to call it a pandemic since it alarms people more, but I think it meets the criteria.

    Lightening strikes are wholly different since lightening is a routine if irregular and random occurrence. Not so for Covid 19 and infectious disease generally..
     
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2020
    • Agree Agree x 1
  9. VAg8r1

    VAg8r1 GC Hall of Fame

    20,702
    1,703
    1,763
    Apr 8, 2007
    And to add more perspective, this is the current position of Michael Dominguez (from the link).
    Not only doesn't Dominguez have any expertise in epidemiology, he has a direct financial interest in promoting travel and tourism and dissuading people from isolating themselves. And I also agree that we have absolutely no idea regarding the probability of contracting the coronavirus. Maybe we will have an educated estimate after we compile data over the next several months but there is no way that we can rely a number that was obviously pulled out of the air.
     
    • Winner Winner x 3
    • Agree Agree x 1
  10. demosthenes

    demosthenes Premium Member

    8,768
    1,060
    3,218
    Apr 3, 2007
    Not sure why your intent in spreading misinformation. That 3,000 number should have sounded awfully suspicious to you.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  11. PacificBlueGator

    PacificBlueGator All American

    480
    133
    1,853
    Apr 3, 2007
    Will be interesting to see how this affects the crowds at Trump's rally's, I think that, and his myopic focus on himself are all that really matter to him
     
  12. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

    35,349
    1,741
    2,258
    Apr 8, 2007
    The Jacksonville Home & Patio show was packed. No one's staying home.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  13. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

    35,349
    1,741
    2,258
    Apr 8, 2007
    • Informative Informative x 1
  14. citygator

    citygator VIP Member

    11,170
    2,507
    3,303
    Apr 3, 2007
    Charlotte
    Just realized UF basketball carries a higher mortality rate for me than Coronavirus. Going to be sick tonight.
     
    • Funny Funny x 3
    • Like Like x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  15. mutz87

    mutz87 p=.06 VIP Member

    38,229
    33,866
    4,211
    Aug 30, 2014
    • Agree Agree x 2
  16. philnotfil

    philnotfil GC Hall of Fame

    17,702
    1,785
    1,718
    Apr 8, 2007
    The 1 in 3,000 is your lifetime chance of getting struck by lightning. On a yearly basis it is about 1 in 700,000.

    Flash Facts About Lightning
     
    • Like Like x 1
  17. gaterzfan

    gaterzfan GC Hall of Fame

    1,738
    331
    1,698
    Feb 6, 2020
    That was a tough ending.

    Bike Week attendance appears to be quite strong. Of course, bikers are risk takers.

     
  18. citygator

    citygator VIP Member

    11,170
    2,507
    3,303
    Apr 3, 2007
    Charlotte
    How does Trump’s leadership compare to other countries?

     
  19. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

    35,349
    1,741
    2,258
    Apr 8, 2007
    Damn, both depressing and funny at the same time.
     
  20. philnotfil

    philnotfil GC Hall of Fame

    17,702
    1,785
    1,718
    Apr 8, 2007
    Well, that didn't inspire confidence :(

    Inside Trump Administration, Debate Raged Over What to Tell Public
     
    • Agree Agree x 1