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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. mdgator05

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    Yeah, of the two of us, I actually read the studies. You don't, claim you do, then when called on it, produce your reading of somebody who claimed to have read the study. A pretty common pattern.
     
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  2. duggers_dad

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    And so the dance begins. Did the journalist read the study she sought to critique ? Obviously she did as the authors of the study acknowleged. Meme stands.
     
  3. mdgator05

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    You couldn't even link said "journalist" properly. So who knows what she said. Meme fails. You fail.

    However, I actually did read the study and looked at the data. Perhaps you should try it instead of relying on somebody to tell you what to think. Unless you can't actually understand the research...
     
  4. duggers_dad

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    My apologies. Eager to find out whether you’re given pause or whether you’re marinated … https://sharylattkisson.com/2024/09/update-on-the-amish-approach-to-covid/
     
  5. mdgator05

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    Can you show me the death data that Attkisson relies upon in that analysis? Also, can you explain to me the importance of vaccine rates in determining death rates during the data window of the study?
     
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  6. QGator2414

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    If you actually read the data and conclusion…you would never have authorized a shot for anyone under 65.

    The conclusion itself stated exactly with we knew from the beginning with Italy/Diamond Princess/New York. This is another confirmation that Trumps warp speed shot should never have been authorized for most of the population. Good find to help show how we completely ignored basic science and medicine.
     
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  7. mdgator05

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    Which data in that paper, specifically, deals with the issue of vaccination? Please cite a specific table or provide a specific quote.
     
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  8. duggers_dad

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    Unless I missed it, she does not provide a source or an estimate. Rather, she questions theirs.

    Vaccination data is not germain as no one was vaccinated during the period of purported excess deaths.

    Of course no one died of a fictitious pathogen.
     
  9. QGator2414

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    The paper 100% defines the population at risk. But you keep trying to justify pushing drugs (new in this case) on populations at little to no risk. The antithesis of medicine and science.
     
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  10. duggers_dad

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    Dropping in to suggest there was no Black Death by either rat fleas, nor were indigenous populations wiped out by White Man germs.
     
  11. mdgator05

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    Hmmm. And the basis for her question? Since she has no data with which to question, what is the basis for her questioning of their data?

    And yet, she continually brings it up. Why is she bringing up something that is not germane?

    Apparently, the Amish/Mennonites did.
     
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  12. mdgator05

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    I notice a lack of a quote or table citation from the paper. Would you like to try again? Have you even read it? If so, this is not too difficult of a request.
     
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  13. QGator2414

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    Go read the conclusion. It defines the elderly and those with real commorbidities specifically are the ones at risk. As we knew. But decided to ignore and push a drug unnecessarily on an entire population. The antithesis of medicine and science.

    It will look much better if you quote the conclusion!
     
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  14. mdgator05

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    That is not what the conclusion says. It does not claim that non-elderly people are not at risk, just that the elderly have higher rates of morbitity and does not declare the vaccine ineffective or unnecessary for people under 65. You lied, it appears.
     
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    Just because population A is at higher risk, doesn't mean population B is at zero risk. I've been over this time and time and time and time again. Q refuses to understand, or is incapable of understanding.

    The data shows elderly are at higher risk, and vaccine reduces the risk. All other populations above 12 are also at risk, and the vaccine helps reduce the risk of hospitalizations and deaths for all 12 and older, though the reduction of risk isn't as big in these age groups. But still, lowering the risks of a hospital visit and death is a huge positive, and one that should not be ignored.
     
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  16. docspor

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    How does 1 get from unnecessary to pure evil?*


    * I don’t really care
     
  17. duggers_dad

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    Do I have to ascribe to her reservations to point out that certain of her reservations are impacting the study ?

    And are you normally ascribe to studies whose authors issue apologies when they’re not stonewalling.

    In any case, according to The Dairy of Amish deaths, one Covid death is listed in October, one in November and one in December during the year you dubiously assume that excess deaths prove a pathogen.

    Obviously the Amish ascribe to germ theory. I mean, they are religious. *chortles*

    https://plainanabaptistjournal.org/index.php/JPAC/article/download/9101/7775/31722

    Sidenote: the Amish population in the US increased substantially since 2020. I may have to find another meme that shows a larger ‘after pandemic’ photo.
     
  18. duggers_dad

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    I know you don’t care, but I’m guessing cash money will get you from here to there.
     
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  19. QGator2414

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    The shot should have never been authorized for people under 65. This paper concluded exactly what we knew from Italy/New York/Diamond Princess. You name it and it all showed the same results. Yet the fools at the cdc/fda/who/etc pushed a shot on entire populations. Totally ignoring basic science and medicine.

    Truly borders on criminal.
     
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  20. QGator2414

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    100% evil to propagandize parents into putting these shots in their kids. Thankfully most never did. Though a fair amount did early. Even more evil is the cdc to this day continues to prey on the 1-3% gullible enough to still do it.
     
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