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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. l_boy

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    The competitive enterprise institute thing was a complete hack job. The second link does a good job of digging into the many complicating factors.

    However, why are you and everybody else still whining about lockdowns? It was a novel virus and we had no experienced a comparable pandemic in 100 years. Most countries were at least as strict. The UK and Sweden (I think) started out looser but quickly tightened as the disease started to spread.

    Bottom line is a lot was not known and people and governments reacted in different ways. Aside from FL, blue states with tighter measures and higher vaccine rates did much better than comparable red states. NY started out a disaster but quickly adapted and brought things into control.

    FL and CA are large diverse states with lots of differences so it is hard to really evaluate them. As the article stated they did do some early things that helped, but those are not the things being talked about.

    Why doesn’t anybody ask - could we have done better than 1.3 million dead? Instead all I hear is people whining about lockdowns.
     
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  2. duggers_dad

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    There never was a “spreading virus”, only a panic-induced PCR-based pseudo-epidemic with massive re-classification of deaths. I’m whining about 1.3 million deaths as a function of a fantastically warped healthcare response to an imaginary threat which turned us into a race of disgusting ghouls.
     
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  3. duggers_dad

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    In 2020 doctors and nurses pretty much sainted themselves. I’m just disappointed that they didn’t work free, as a gesture of solidarity with the millions, like myself, who lost their jobs, almost overnight, because someone decided our jobs were “non-essential” …

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  5. ncargat1

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    Which is ironic since outside of China, Italy early in and one native American community that the whites of New Mexico hate, literally no one was ever locked down
     
  6. l_boy

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    Agree. So I guess they are angry that health agencies advised people to stay away from each other in a pandemic. I wonder what people who are crying about this thought would have happened if there were no modifications to day to day life?
     
  7. duggers_dad

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    On the flipside, I wonder what would have happened if people weren’t incited to regard others as deadly disease vectors ?
     
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  8. QGator2414

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    You fell for the mass derangement. We get it. At what point do you admit you were fooled? Any scientist or epidemiologist worth anything knew lockdowns for a disease like Covid was not just STUPID. It was a Test to see what kind of control they had.

    They knew from the very beginning the small group of people who were at risk. Yet they screwed over everyone. Literally.

    The fact you are not upset about this is mind boggling. There is a small group that is still controlled by the propaganda though. As defined here…
     
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  9. mikemcd810

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    Seems strange that virtually every country in the world had some form of lockdown of your theory is true.
     
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  10. QGator2414

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    If only the Trump Covid vaccine lovers understood they spread the disease just as easily. Arguably more as they believed they actually would not get the disease because the “cdc” said so…
     
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  11. QGator2414

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    And every country screwed over the vast majority in doing so. Even the most fearful here @AzCatFan admits his kids were harmed. Yet he thinks it was worth it. We disagree. And history is quite obvious. We won’t be locking down again…
     
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  12. mikemcd810

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    So either epidemiologists in every country decided to do this as a test to screw over their own people or....maybe you're just wrong and this was the best option out of a bunch of bad options. Tough call...
     
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  13. QGator2414

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    Any epidemiologist worth anything knew it was stupid to lockdown. And Covid proved that!

    Now if you want to make up excuses. Go for it.
     
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  14. duggers_dad

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    “How could we have known that if we deemed Mom and Pop ‘non-essential’ that the Amazons and the Wal-Marts would grow and prosper at the expense of hundreds and thousands of Moms and Pops ?”

    It may not have been the darkest, but it was easily the stupidest period in modern history.
     
  15. duggers_dad

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    Something happened in NYC, Spring 2020, and it certainly wasn’t a virus …

     
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    Yeah, looks like something a virus would do *extreme sarcasm*

     
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    The most dangerous place to in Spring 2020 was an NYC hospital …

     
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  20. QGator2414

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    “Two Harvard colleagues tried to arrange a debate between me and opposing Harvard faculty, but just as with Stanford, there were no takers. The invitation to debate remains open. The public should not trust scientists, even Harvard scientists, unwilling to debate their positions with fellow scientists.”

    They will not debate because everyone now knows how wrong they were and how foolish they will look. The sad part is they will not admit it. We have a few here as well…
     
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