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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. HeyItsMe

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    Thank you for all you do in your advancement of the science community. Reason and logic has been lost with many on here long ago, if they ever even had any to begin with.
     
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  2. WestCoastGator

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    Rock on, my friend! Truth and freedom will win out in the end.
     
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  3. QGator2414

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    Expected. Ignore the question. You know. Hopefully your “next-gen” vaccines don’t cause inflammation…

    $20 says you are now smart enough to not take anymore boosters like the vast majority of the population!
     
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  4. QGator2414

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    Yes it does!
     
  5. duggers_dad

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    Ha-Ha-Ha! Ha-Ha … *has to recover* … Ha-Ha-Ha! Now a MAGA is someone who refuses Trump’s vaccine.
     
  6. HeyItsMe

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  7. duggers_dad

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  8. l_boy

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    Three to six months after infection, the risk of heart failure in vaccinated people was 39% lower than in unvaccinated people, with the risk of blood clots in the veins and arteries down 47% and 28% respectively. From six to 12 months post-infection, the risks of the same complications were 48%, 50% and 38% lower, respectively, for vaccinated people.

    The protective effect arises from the vaccines reducing the severity of the disease when people experience breakthrough infections, when the virus takes hold despite a person being vaccinated.
     
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  9. duggers_dad

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    Due to the apparent non-existence of viruses, vaccine efficacy is a meaningless category.

    Again, no virus. Staggering excess mortality since 2020.

    Only pertinent question: what’s causing all the dying if not the vaccines ?
     
  10. duggers_dad

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    We’re halfway home. There’s no Covid either!

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  11. studegator

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    Years before Covid, the scientist credited with eradicating smallpox warned against shutting down the world to combat an epidemic.
    The Prophets: D.A. Henderson

    In 2006, ten years before his death at the age of 87, the legendary epidemiologist D.A. Henderson laid out a plan for how public health officials should respond to a major influenza pandemic. It was published in a small journal that focused mainly on bioterrorism—and was quickly forgotten.
    As it turns out, that paper, titled “Disease Mitigation Measures in the Control of Pandemic Influenza,” was Henderson’s prescient bequest to the future. If we had followed his advice, our country—indeed, our world—could have avoided its disastrous response to Covid.

    This month marks the four-year anniversary of lockdowns on a global scale. And though the pandemic has passed, its consequences live on. The lockdowns embraced by the U.S. public-health establishment meant that millions of young people had their education and social development disrupted, or left school for good. Mental health problems rose substantially. So did incidents of domestic violence and overdose deaths.
     
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  12. duggers_dad

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    Crimes against humanity and unprecedented mass-derangement.
     
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  13. l_boy

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    This perseverating on lockdowns is really annoying. Over a million people died and many others were hospitalized or suffered long term effects, yet people are still whining about lockdowns. For the most part, lockdowns were not mandated, and mostly administered by state and local entities. Whatever Fauci or CDC said was generally guidance.

    Also, from what I understand it isn’t as if those states who had shorter lockdown periods had dramatically better economic results or better school test score outcomes - to the best of my knowledge.

    At this point most everyone agrees some states kept schools closed too long.

    Enough with the damn lockdowns.
     
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  14. duggers_dad

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    People woke up to a world in which we weren’t allowed to open our businesses, send our kids to school, attend church, comfort our dying or bury our dead.

    Damn straight we’re pissed.
     
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    Viruses …

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  16. l_boy

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    To continue my enough on lockdowns rant

    The primary purpose of the lockdowns was to mitigate over burdening the health care system. Does nobody remember what a dystopian shit show NYC was at first? Once they locked down they got it under control.

    These charts show that different states didn’t have dramatically different charts. States that had more restrictions tended to fare somewhat better health wise but not quite as much economic wise.

    Covid’s deadly tradeoffs, by the numbers: How each state has fared in the pandemic

    Ultimately lock downs do work, for better or for worse. The flu was practically non existent.

    Most of the lockdowns were generally half assed. Now the mantra seems to be if only we had let another million people die in order to increase GDP by 3 pts.
     
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  17. duggers_dad

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    Hospitals were never overburdened. Predominately, they were underutilized and hundreds closed. It was all a crock.
     
  18. HeyItsMe

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    Q bitching about lockdowns again? What a goober.
     
  19. duggers_dad

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    “If you’re angry about not being able to open your business, send your kids to school, attend church, comfort your dying or bury your dead you’re, you’re a, you’re a Q!!!”
     
  20. studegator

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    Lockdown Damage

    Covid Lockdowns Did Not Improve Outcomes: Lessons from Florida and California - Competitive Enterprise Institute
    No, Lockdown States Did Not Do Better - Competitive Enterprise Institute
    COVID Lockdowns Were a Giant Experiment. It Was a Failure.
    And for some balance—Probably closer to actuality—-
    Did Florida Get It Right Against COVID-19? | Think Global Health
     
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