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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. duggers_dad

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    My great-grandfather had ten children. One, my Aunt Bernice, was said to have been crippled by polio. And I do remember her limp.

    None of the remaining nine were so affected. In fact, there was never any talk of the others being stricken by polio.

    How would you explain this if polio was an infectious virus ?
     
  2. duggers_dad

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    Similarly, my late mother-in-law was one of three siblings. One was said to have suffered a short leg due to polio. The other two were unaffected.

    My point is that every time I hear “My siblings and I all got chickenpox at the same time” … I can point to scenarios like these.
     
  3. ElimiGator

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    Dont know. My dad contracted Polio at age 8. He was the only one in the house of 9 that had it. Polio is very contagious, and not everyone who is infected with polio will show symptoms. Some have mild or flu-like symptoms that can be easily mistaken for another type of virus. Sounds familiar.
     
  4. duggers_dad

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    Ordinarily, if there are no symptoms there is no disease. The baseless notion of asymptomatic infections drove Americans mad and led to massive testing, whereas it was the test that sustained the perception of a pandemic.

    But back to polio, it’s not a virus either. I was just addressing the dubious assumption that simultaneous symptoms point to virus.
     
  5. BLING

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    Polio “only” caused paralysis in 1% of those it infected. It did so by attacking the spinal cord. The other siblings may have still been infected, but it did not attack their brain/spinal cord as in the 1%.

    Meningitis acts the same way. Most people who get that just have fatigue or other symptoms. Yet, I knew someone years back that had it infect the fluid area in their brain, causing swelling/pressure in their brain which had them in a coma for a week. I think that must he a pretty rare symptom compared to polio.

    So with a visible rash-like disease like chicken pox, what do you suppose causes those symptoms to break out if not the virus? Why are we immune to future infection from Chicken-pox after having it once?

    My grandmother was left mostly blind by Smallpox as a child in the early 1900’s btw. Still lived on and raised a dozen kids.
     
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    Sounds like the problem may be the podiums :)
     
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  7. ElimiGator

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    This is probably true. I was exposed to Covid multiple times. Once, my wife and daughter both had Covid-lite in ‘22, but I didn’t get it. I mean we’re in the same living room/house daily! The other time, in ‘21, my oldest brother had Covid. He doesn’t believe in viruses and thinks Doctors are quacks. I ended up calling 911 for his stubborn ass. He spent 5 days in the hospital. Why didn’t I get it? I never wore a mask when I entered his apartment. Good gene stock?
     
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  8. WESGATORS

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    We have someone like that in our family (not having got it despite many, many exposures). I don't see why it wouldn't be possible that some people may have a natural immunity to it.

    Go GATORS!
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  9. BLING

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    Guess it depends on what part of the body is attacked.

    Obviously nobody thinks of “asymptomatic” chicken pox. Almost everyone gets those breakouts. But apparently there are actually rare cases of “asymptomatic chicken pox”. Who knew.

    Before reading up on past outbreaks (product of pandemic) I never would have guessed the vast majority of polio cases were asymptomatic. I always thought that a disease one was lucky to have survived. But of course it caused millions to be permanently disfigured and debilitated, so it was rightly a horrifying disease nonetheless. Maybe it’s me, but “hey, it’s only going to horribly disfigure 1%” is definitely too dismissive even knowing many had less symptoms or were asymptomatic.

    Yet respiratory diseases seem to matter much more based on where they go in the respiratory tract. Ones that go deep into the lungs or cause pneumonia rationally cause more problems than those that just give you the sniffles. Covid obviously fell into this category, and even as COVID evolved the later variants tended to be less of the pneumonia variety and more of the upper respiratory tract variety.
     
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  10. BLING

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    Either I’m very lucky or im super immune (or the shot + 1 booster really worked for me). Because as far as I know I’ve never had covid. Don’t remember the last time I had a cough, really.
     
  11. Gatorrick22

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    Let me guess you use Google and Bing to find the propaganda that they send the world?

    There are many many good browsers and search engines out there. Bing and Google are NOT on that list.
     
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  12. duggers_dad

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    Polio not a virus. A virus was originally presupposed via injecting massive amounts of spinal fluid into monkey’s brains and feigning surprised when the monkeys got sick.

    smallpox, chickenpox, measles, etc., simply eliminative phenomena.
    ’Polio’ arose as a waste-basket term for paralysis.

    A viral cause was presupposed and reinforced when massive amounts of spinal fluid was injected into monkeys brains and by acting surprised when the monkeys got sick.

    ‘Polio’ was never eradicated but merely rebranded as different conditions such as GBS.

    Moving on, if you get chickenpox, you can spread chickenpox to others but will not get it again afterwards. However, if you do somehow get it again, it is not the chickenpox that you have, it is shingles. If you get shingles, you can not give shingles to another person, but you can give them chickenpox. Fortunately, you are immune from chickenpox but you can become reinfected with shingles again. This convoluted merry-go-round is supposedly all caused by passing around the same ‘virus.’

    There are no viruses.
     
  13. duggers_dad

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    Do you believe that your brother got sick because he doesn’t believe in viruses and believes doctors are quacks ?
     
  14. duggers_dad

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    ‘Immunity’ is, I would argue, another meaningless concept. There is no virus to be immune to.

    Remember when people would argue that we should all get Covid so we could be immune to it ?

    Remember the rejoinder, “If getting a virus confers immunity, why can people get multiple colds a year ?” ?

    Cold, flu, etc., are manifestations of detoxification. They are eliminative phenomena.
     
  15. vaxcardinal

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    How do you know you didn’t get it?
     
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  16. duggers_dad

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    There was no novel disease for anyone to ‘get.’

    The only thing that people ‘got’ was positive tests, wherein a positive death might or might not have been attended by age-old symptoms theretofore described as flu, cold or allergies.
     
  17. ElimiGator

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    Same here and it stared me in the face.
     
  18. ElimiGator

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    Lol. He got “a bug” from his work. Before that, Covid didn’t exist and it was all hype. He listens to his Dr now. Who knew knocking on death’s door would create a new mindset? He got something. If it wasn’t some variant of a virus it’s a mystery to mankind.
     
  19. ElimiGator

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    Great question. I don’t. Asymptomatic?
     
  20. GatorJMDZ

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    Rick's a Lougle guy.
     
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