Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Hard to believe based on what you post.

You taking the booster?

 

You will definitely be one of the last to get there LOL! I am confident your cat is already there…

 

Isn't amazing? Thousands of practicing doctors with advanced degrees can't see through the propaganda. But one Internet genius, with an Engineering degree, working at a dentist office knows the truth!

Again, if it weren't so dangerous, it would be freaking hilarious!

 

How can two billion Muslims be wrong ?

 

Your body is (hopefully) recovering from the trauma which is the shot.

 

Your data:
Age-standardised mortality rates for deaths by vaccination status, England: deaths occurring between 1 January 2021 and 31 January 2022

My analysis:
Looking at Table 2, I'm filtering for Cause of Death (column A) = "Deaths involving COVID-19", and then looking at the most recent month. Comparing those with a Vaccination status (column F) "Unvaccinated" with those who have "Second dose, at least 21 days ago" or "
Third dose or booster, at least 21 days ago". Column H gives us the "Age-standardised mortality rate / 100,000 person-years". Filtering this way gives me 21 lines of data to look at.

For ages 18-39, the unvaccinated have a mortality rate of 9.7, 2 doses are at 6.5, and 3 doses are at 2.4. Those who are vaccinated are much less likely to die than those who are vaccinated. Caveat here that all three of these statistics are noted as unreliable due to the small sample size. However, there is no overlap in the confidence limits for the unvaccinated and 3 dose groups, suggesting that we can interpret the differences between those groups as being significant.

Ages 40-49
Unvaccinated: 45.3
2 doses: 19.9
3 doses: 4.1
Those who are vaccinated are much less likely to die than those who are vaccinated. Those who have gotten a booster are much less likely to die than those who only have 2 doses of the vaccine. Caveat here that the values for 2 doses and 3 doses are noted as unreliable due to the small sample size. Again, there is no overlap between the confidence intervals for the unvaccinated and 3 dose groups, suggesting that we can interpret the differences between those groups as being significant.

Ages 50-59
Unvaccinated: 161.6
2 doses: 99
3 doses: 10.3
Those who are vaccinated are much less likely to die than those who are vaccinated. Those who have gotten a booster are much less likely to die than those who only have 2 doses of the vaccine.

Ages 60-69
Unvaccinated: 640.1
2 doses: 571.4
3 doses: 42.9
Those who are vaccinated are much less likely to die than those who are vaccinated. Those who have gotten a booster are much less likely to die than those who only have 2 doses of the vaccine.

Ages 70-79
Unvaccinated: 1564.7
2 doses: 2248.4
3 doses: 155.3
Notice that for old people, who were able to get the vaccine sooner than young people, having 2 doses further back in time is less protective. But as always, having had a booster results in much lower mortality rates.

Ages 80-89
Unvaccinated: 3810.3
2 doses: 6624.9
3 doses: 620
Again, for old people, who were able to get the vaccine sooner than young people, having 2 doses further back in time is less protective. But as always, having had a booster results in much lower mortality rates.

Ages 90+
Unvaccinated: 10,231.9
2 doses: 12,888.1
3 doses: 1991.5
Again, for old people, who were able to get the vaccine sooner than young people, having 2 doses further back in time is less protective. But as always, having had a booster results in much lower mortality rates.



Help me figure out what I'm doing wrong that is making it look like the data says the vaccines are highly effective.

 

I've done a 180 and am now all aboard the Q-ship. Flossing my teeth at least 3 times a day to remain Covid-free.

 

Science is based on observation, data, facts, then experimentation to confirm in search for the truth. Science gets things wrong, but eventually corrects as new facts are revealed and accepted.

Religion is based on faith. The truth is already known and facts need to fit the truth. This is tautology, not science.

Have there been people who call themselves scientists guilty of the same tautology in the name of science? Yes. But I wouldn't call these arrogant people with a God complex true scientists.

 

Trust me...doctors are not pushing this shot anymore! Your cat understands this!

 

I have told you. You want to focus on the data of fear instead of reality. If you are healthy. This disease is not that dangerous. But if you insist on living in fear. By all means.

 

Well...I was going to give you a "Winner" but unfortunately you were dumb enough to imply it will prevent covid.

One day you may get there. Sadly this is just another attempt to be funny that shows how ignorant you are...

 

I'm focusing on the data you provided.

 

Then you should understand how little risk this disease is to most people. And how to best be prepared to fight it when you get it. As you are going to get it…

 

Pfft, if virologists did science they’d all be out of work.

 

It isn't about how low the risk is. It's about lowering the risk. The vaccine clearly lowers the risk of hospitization, all ages. And the one true safety signal, myocarditis, is 7X riskier from infection without vaccination.

So tell me, why shouldn't we lower our risks?

 

No. That is not the case. All medicines are going to have consequences. You look at the risk/benefit/harm before you just start shooting drugs in people. Your cat gets this…

 

Where were you? Looks nice. Sorry about your accident and hope you heal fast.

I always hike with this when i am by myself. The Garmin InReach. Service is like $12 a month for satellite service. Gives the wife peace of mind that i wont be in a crevice somewhere unable to get help.

 

You have a very low risk of being in a car accident but you probably wear a seat belt to further reduce your chances of getting seriously injured or killed.

 

My cat is a healthy, 17-old year cat. And had been updated on his shot records his entire life. He gets that you are, in his words, a "meow-ron."

You are right, we also must look at the risks of the vaccine. And no, common side effects from every vaccine that include fatigue, soreness, and a light fever aren't safety signals. They are expected outcomes of every vaccine, and proof the vaccine is working, as intended, to trigger the immune system. Safety signals are other problems that occur that are potentially dangerous, that aren't a part of the immune system response.

The J&J blood clot issue, for example. But those vaccines were pulled from shelves over the danger. With the mRNA shot, the safety signal is myocarditis, mostly in younger males. Which occurs about 1 in 50,000.

Myocarditis is also a symptom of infection. And those rates are significantly higher than a rate of myocarditis from vaccine. 7X higher according to a study that amalgamated several COVID myocarditis study results. There is also the benefit of v the vaccine, which studies show cut hospitalization rates in more than half for the age group 5 - 11.

In short, do a risk/benefit analysis, and it's clear the benefits of the vaccine far outweigh the risks. Unless you believe in something silly, like common side effects are safety signals. But even my cat knows that kind of thinking is stupid. And even if you believe this, which is better? 48 hours of feeling icky? Or preventing hospitalizations and death?