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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. duggers_dad

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  2. duggers_dad

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    And here’s your script …

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  3. mutz87

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    What nether regions of the internets do you find this stuff?

    Why would a fake pandemic would be created in the first place?

    How did these unnamed malevolent pandemic manufacturers get the entire world, friend and foe, to get in on this conspiracy?

    Why would medical professionals around the world suddenly promote the use of ventilators and highly toxic drugs, and then stop promoting them?

    Why would countries want to destroy small biz, prevent people from visiting each other, mandate masks and social distancing?

    Why did govts then provide boatloads of money trying to save people from losing their biz, or to help them put food on their tables?

    Why then suddenly remove all the mandates?

    The only correct answer to all these questions is that your post is absolute buffoonery.
     
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    No. Age adjusted rates in this case were not important. We have ignored risk benefit across groups. They have been applied this thinking to a point that the idiots in public health still recommend a healthy 6 month old take one of these shots. Now apply that thinking to guidance and tell me you think we should advise a healthy young person take one of these shots.
     
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  6. duggers_dad

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    Nether regions are apparently any source outside your catechism, your predigested tractarianism, your Man on TV.

    I actually don’t believe it is necessary to imagine it was a conscious conspiracy cooked up in smoky back rooms. Rather, it was sheer whipped-up and drummed-in terror arising from the implications of germ theory, as amplified by public health, media and social media, monkey see/monkey do, fear of blood on hands, financial incentives, etc.

    The rush to ventilators was largely due to the fear that CPAP masks would spew ‘Covid’ into the air and kill doctors and nurses. In other words, vents weren’t used to save patients so much as to protect hospital staff.

    Going into 2020 it was generally acknowledged that healthcare was the third-leading cause of death in the US. Don’t you think that someone somewhere in healthcare knows this while taking in big bucks ? And don’t weapons manufactures profit handsomely from wars ?

    Thanks for venturing outside your hole, if only briefly. Don’t be afraid of your shadow. Come out into the light which exposes the horrific costs of debilitating belief that people are deadly disease vectors. Reckon with the discomfiting fact that you embraced the horror.
     
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  7. duggers_dad

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    No unique symptoms + no remarkable autopsies = no new disease …
     

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  8. mutz87

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    So not a conscious conspiracy, but just unmitigated fear over imaginary viruses. Hundreds of millions of people didn't actually get sick and millions didn't actually die--or if they did, it was due to ventilators and hospitals killing them.

    Problem is that sickness and death did occur, and no matter how often you pump out your pet germ denialist theories, the fact is germ theory is the accepted theory in science over older competing ones because that is what science determined. Memes and 150 yo articles won’t change that

    Another thing, it's true the world reacted in an extreme way in response to the pandemic. But it's also true that the threat and harm were real. .
     
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  9. duggers_dad

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    Or if you prefer, historical panic over never proven pathogen.

    I am a germ theory denialist. It’s not even a theory. Next ad hom.

    And you may have missed where I posted references accounting for all excess mortality without reference to a virus, with the iatrogenic mass-casualty event of April 2020 merely the start.
     
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    Who has the most?
     
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  11. mutz87

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    I know you are a denialist Thing is your denialism seems rooted in ideas that couldn’t withstand scientific scrutiny which is why alternate theories haven’t held

    But let’s say you’re right Covid wasn’t proven to exist. You still cannot rationally explain excess deaths and illness around the world.
     
  12. l_boy

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    If someone here said the sun didn’t exist would you sit here and debate him endlessly?
     
  13. duggers_dad

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    Show me scientific evidence of a virus and we’ll see who’s the believer.

    It’s easy to explain why more people were sick, especially when asymptomatic persons who tested positive were considered to be ill.

    Neither is it hard to explain excess mortality without reference to a virus …

    *Tens of thousands of iatrogenic deaths in hospitals and untold thousands dead in nursing homes via neglect and even abandonment.

    213,000 people died at home in 2020 than in 2019. And according to the CDC, few of these were from ‘Covid.’ People died of treatable ailments, at home, for fear of catching Covid in the hospital. People were literally more afraid of dying of Covid than dying …

    Homicides were up. Even car fatalities were up. And I haven’t even gotten to deaths of despair and the role continuous piped-in fear may have played in an aging and already unhealthy U.S. Fear is a known death accelerant.
     
  14. duggers_dad

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    If a poster like this one threw out a non sequitur would anyone pay attention to it ?
     
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  15. mutz87

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    I know I know:D
     
  16. duggers_dad

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    Asked and answered.
     
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  17. l_boy

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    Trust me life is much better when blocking these science denying fools. I’m all for diversity of thought but I try to avoid people who are intentionally making me dumber. It is just endless troll feeding.
     
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  18. duggers_dad

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    Troll - someone who’s rocking your world so bad you have to dig a hole, lower yourself into it, and cover yourself.

    Science - don’t wear a mask, wear a mask, wear two and wear goggles if you got ‘em and “What is a woman ?” and who’s funding the studies.
     
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    Summarizing some of the (rhetorical?) questions I’m expected to answer …

    “Why would they be so stupid as to … ?”

    Me: yes.
     
  20. G8trGr8t

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    Son is 20. Great shape, healthy. Twice vaccinated. Heart rate hit 140 walking around Monday. Clinic covid test Monday negative. Heartrate at rest 90 - 100 home tests are 3 months expired but both types showed positive today. Thoughts?
     
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