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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. duggers_dad

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    You asked for a link. I provided 14 pages. Are you really an honest broker or is ad hom your default ? Hell, even CDC VAERS reported several thousand vaccine deaths in 2021. Honestly, I stopped counting.

    And imagine an immunologist rushing to defend his discipline. As I’ve mentioned several times before, although I don’t think that the notion of a uniquely pernicious pathogen was just cooked up, there definitely was a conspiracy regarding coordination, on multiple levels, to scrub damning evidence on vaccines. Don’t believe me ? Even this late in the game google “vaccine deaths.” I’ll bet the vast majority of the first several pages will be fact checks.
     
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  2. duggers_dad

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    Zhou Xing, an immunology professor at McMaster University, found the methodology to be flawed as it did not seem to factor in medical conditions and age as possible reasons that death could have occurred after vaccination.”

    Fact-Checked: because it can’t be the vaccine. It has to be something else.
     
  3. mikemcd810

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    I find it fascinating that you're willing to scrutinize things like "do viruses exist?" but not "could there be other explanations for excess deaths besides vaccines?" Just interesting the lines of intellectual curiosity that some people draw.
     
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  4. AzCatFan

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    VAERS is open source and unverified. Anyone can post into VAERS, including claiming a vaccine turned them into the Hulk! Trusting VAERS without verifying the information is more garbage in-garbage out. From the VAERS website itself:

    VAERS reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. Reports to VAERS can also be biased. As a result, there are limitations on how the data can be used scientifically. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind.

    Did you interpret the VAERS data with the limitations in mind? Of course not. You hear/read only what you want to read, and take it as the truth. And while you should trust, you should also verify. Do any verification on the crap sources you read and the truth comes out quickly. And it's not to be found in your crap sources.
     
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  5. duggers_dad

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    In 2020 the Alachua County Health Department reported that a man died of Covid after having been struck by lightning, while on the roof, then thrown to the ground and severing his spine.

    We know the real reason you’re so up in arms about the possibility that vaccines kill - you’ve had them and you can’t (un)have them.

    VAERS reporting procedure doesn’t seem terribly convenient and the reportee’s doctors often sign off on them. I have a friend whose doctor confirmed for her that it was likely her first Pfizer that caused her GBS …

    Reporting Adverse Events to VAERS | Vaccine Safety | CDC.
     
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  6. duggers_dad

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    You’re easily fascinated. Of course not all excess deaths were caused by vaccines. Ex: in 2020, prior to vaccine rollouts, in late December, all excess deaths were from iatrogenic causes, nursing home residents being neglected and abandoned, people dying at home of treatable ailments for fear of contracting ‘Covid’ in hospitals, drug overdoses, increased homicides and auto fatalities, etc.
     
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  7. AzCatFan

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    Doctors often report potential issues to VAERS because they don't know the answer whether or not the vaccine caused the issue. They know reporting it to VAERS means if others experience the same issue, the Feds will do a proper investigation. VAERS is useful as an early warning system. But as scientific data to use for conclusions? It's crap. Only about 25% of all VAERS reporting is verified as an actual issue caused by vaccination.

    And yes, there are single cases of mistakes in reporting. But what percentage are those? 1%? .1%? .01%? It's so small, especially when you are talking about millions of deaths, that the mistakes can be ignored. If 1,000,000 died of COVID on official death certs, but 1 of them actually died in a car crash, does that really make a significant difference? No.

    Potential mistakes are why scientists often list their confidence level when reporting. One report with a 95% confidence level certainly accounts for the potential mistakes. Several reports with similar conclusions, all with 95% confidence levels or higher, and the chance that mistakes are skewing the data? Virtually zero.
     
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  8. duggers_dad

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    Scientists, so-called, would tell you that there is a 100% certainty of a virus when there is 0% evidence that it exists.
     
  9. QGator2414

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    There is a reason why none of the propagandized address the real possibility they had SMI due to the shot. Because they cannot undo the reality they took the shot. But reality is they should be pushing to know if this could be why they felt so awful after taking the shot as it will be important to know going forward in making healthcare decisions. But they cannot accept they just followed and believed without asking questions.
     
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  10. AzCatFan

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    Show the safety signal data. What are the rates of incidents for your signals? Percentage of outcome for each? And why does this make the jab dangerous?

    I know why I felt bad after getting the jab. It's what happens with all vaccines. The vaccine caused my immune system to react. And when that happens, the immune system takes up a lot of the body's resources, causing fatigue. A fever is also a reaction to when the immune system is activated. All of this is normal with all vaccines, and not a safety signal. And because vaccines either contain just mRNA or an attenuated virus, these symptoms almost always go away within 48 hours of getting a vaccine. Exactly what happened to me with the COVID vaccine.

    So, what are the actual safety signals that make the vaccine so bad? List them. Please? If you can't, how about stop pushing your BS about safety signals that even you can't list!
     
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  11. duggers_dad

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    BTW, my friend who contracted GBS, after her Pfizer, has shown no regret about having taken the vaccine. As far as she’s concerned she took one for the team.

    So great is the hold that Public Health had on people.
     
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    Of course the main reason scientists, so called, dismiss the possibility of vaccine death is due to the immense pressure to hew to the droning, droning, droning party line “safe and effective.” It’s like the more you say it the truer it gets.
     
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  14. QGator2414

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    Just stop LOL!!!!

    You do not have people calling in sick after getting vaccines. Well the Covid Shot yes. You really need to stop looking for excuses and be prepared for the future. You have been played sadly. The real sick thing is others have not and do not realize the potential problem that lies ahead. IMO you just do not want to accept it...
     
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    Science, so called, about 0-50 on transmission studies … upload_2023-7-18_15-33-45.jpeg
     
  16. AzCatFan

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    While I can't find any studies on missed days off of work from the flu vaccine, here's the CDC's description of possible flu shot side effects:

    Flu vaccine side effects are generally mild and go away on their own within a few days. Some side effects that may occur from a flu shot include soreness, redness, and/or swelling where the shot was given, headache (low grade), fever, nausea, muscle aches, and fatigue. The flu shot, like other injections, can occasionally cause fainting.
    Sound familiar?

    Here's are the side effects of the MMR vaccine:
    • Sore arm from the shot
    • Fever
    • Mild rash
    • Temporary pain and stiffness in the joints, mostly in teenage or adult women who did not already have immunity to the rubella component of the vaccine
    Also look incredibly familiar, doesn't it!?!

    Again, difficult to find data on how many people miss work, or this instance, kids who miss school/daycare due to the effect of the vaccination. It's purely anecdotal, but my youngest always stayed home because he was misurable the day after vaccination. We started to plan all of his shots on Friday afternoon, and plan nothing on Saturday.
     
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  17. AzCatFan

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    Maybe I was researching the wrong vaccine. Shringrix, the shingles vaccine, produces very similar side effects as the COVID vaccine.

    According to Shingrix's FDA label, 78% of vaccine recipients experienced pain at the injection site in clinical tests. Thirty-eight percent experienced redness and 25.9% experienced swelling. Other adverse reactions include muscle pain in 44.7% of recipients, fatigue in 44.5% of recipients, and headache in 37.7% of recipients, according to the FDA. A smaller number of recipients experienced shivering, fever and gastrointestinal symptoms.

    A CDC official told the publication that 1 in 6 recipients had side effects severe enough to keep them from their normal activities.
    I would imagine that normal activities might include going to work. The claim that the COVID vaccine is the only vaccine that causes side effects bad enough to miss work is another load of complete crap. All vaccines have very similar side effects because they are designed to activate the immune system.

    Vaccines can train your body to prevent sicknesses before they even start. They do this by introducing something called an antigen into the body, which imitates an infection and primes the immune system to respond.
     
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  18. QGator2414

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    LOL!!!

    They literally pushed short term disability for the Covid shot. Just stop. You were played. There is a reason you cannot find studies on SMI and the Covid shot. Trust me!
     
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  19. AzCatFan

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    Trust you? You said it again!?! You are so full of it. 5.5 billion jabs and over 1 billion people with at least one shot, and there's a giant conspiracy to hide SMI and the shot!!!! Even if .1% had a side effect from the shot, that would be over 1 million people with the issue. How the bleep can you hide 1 million people from all over the globe?

    You are the one being played. You believe in crap without verifying any of it. And when you try, you fail so bad. The COVID shots have very similar side effects as all vaccines. And the Shingrix vaccine causes 16.67% to miss normal functions in the next day or two. The difference is Shingrix is give to only those 50 years and older, so only a small percentage of the population. COVID vaccine? Now available to all those 6 months and older.
     
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  20. QGator2414

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    Don’t trust me. Trust your doctor! Not the idiots in public health/government/media!
     
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