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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. AzCatFan

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    Translation. You have crap for proof. This is why peer review is important.

    Sorry, but I don't buy into your conspiracy bs. And peer review has been the accepted way to advance science for centuries.

    If you can't show your proof, you should stop espousing your crap beliefs.
     
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  2. duggers_dad

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    What happened to this “advance of science” ? Especially medical science ?

    Well before pan-panic, decades and decades ago, healthcare was moving away from the wisdom of the body to risky and unnecessary interventions that have made healthcare the third leading cause of death to the leading cause, depending on metrics.
     
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  3. vaxcardinal

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    no possible other explanation for why someone died that happened to get a Covid shot since people never died before covid shots were given. And nobody was ever long term disabled until the vaccine started being given.
     
  4. duggers_dad

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    Don’t you know that correlation is only supposed to flow one way ? Here’s how it works: drive your car into a tree, die in hospital after testing positive for Covid, Covid killed you. On the other hand: die the day after your Covid jab, unfortunate heart attack.
     
  5. duggers_dad

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    Everything was done to amplify fear of contagion.

    Everything was done to convey efficacy of response.
     
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  7. gatordavisl

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    Actually, peer review is a mechanism for vetting published papers, many which involve empirical research. It forms as a check for research methodology, verity of findings, legitimacy of the lit review, etc. You might argue that peer review advances science indirectly, but that is not its explicit purpose. There are also a number of practitioner or conversation pieces that are also subject to peer review.
     
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    His doctor determined he was killed by the Covid shot without a post mortem? Two possibilities here you are either lieing or you are crazy.
     
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  9. duggers_dad

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    Why Spock-less ? I’ve maintained this view since 2020.
     
  10. duggers_dad

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    But if you drive your car into a tree, break every bone in your body and then test positive on admittance …
     
  11. AzCatFan

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    Last step in the scientific method is present your findings. Peer review journal articles work for scientists to present their findings, and allow their peers to examine, critique, and question what was printed. If another scientist or group runs a similar experiment, but results don't match to the original peer reviewed article, it begs the question why? Which begins another experiment, and the scientific method continues.

    The vast majority of scientific research papers aren't accepted as fact. There are often variables unknown to the author(s) that are discovered later, from other experiments. But almost all peer reviewed articles advance knowledge, which is the advancement of science.

    What Q espouses are conspiracy theories using big terms like safety signals. But there are no facts that support his theories. No data. No papers. Nothing. How does science work when there's nothing to review? Answer: it doesn't work.
     
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  12. gatordavisl

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    I know - you don't need to lecture me on what peer review is. I've reviewed and published papers/book chapters ;). My contention is that peer review does not necessarily advance science. It's merely a system of checks.
     
  13. GatorJMDZ

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    Why on God's green earth do you think anyone wants the "help" of the thread laughingstock?
     
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  14. docspor

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    Is your comma key busted?
     
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  15. QGator2414

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    Just for kicks and giggles to keep this insanity you are living in going...

    How many vaccines had laws that provided you paid time off to recover from the side effects?

    Many public sector workers may be entitled to paid vaccination leave.

    • Federal employees can receive up to 4 hours of paid leave to receive each dose of the COVID-19 vaccine, including booster shots, and up to 2 days of paid leave to recover from related adverse reactions. Additionally, federal employees may take to up to 4 hours of paid leave to help family members[3] receive each dose of the vaccine, including booster shots. For more information from the federal government
    Know Your Rights: COVID-19 Vaccination Leave - A Better Balance

    Instead of finding a "peer reviewed" study to confirm a bias. I did a quick google search of common sense. So many people put their body to work unnecessarily to a point where they literally had to miss work. That gets pushed to the side as no big deal when it could be the tell on why we are seeing such excess mortality (SMI is real and no one will ask the question as we do not want that "peer reviewed" study). And yes there are many other safety signals. Not just myocarditis either.

    But you keep thinking healthy people should have taken an experimental shot for a disease that was of no danger to them. You really do define how powerful propaganda is!
     
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  16. QGator2414

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    The propaganda is powerful...

    You keep taking unnecessary shots. You keep ignoring medicine and science. I will give you a lot of doctors did fall for a lot of the propaganda in the beginning. But not today. Crazy you still seem to be falling for it.
     
  17. QGator2414

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    Who knows how many ways there are to communicate on a message board between punctuation/acronyms/etc?

    My grammar skills are a weak point for sure though lol. 1210 GRE. 800 Math 410 Verbal.

    But when you have nothing...you become the grammar police on a message board lol!
     
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  18. AzCatFan

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    The one myocarditis "study" that showed the vaccine was worse than infection was based on VAERS data. All studies based on actual case studies showed infection must more dangerous. What other safety signal data do you have? Some vIdeO yoU FounD on YouTube DoING youR Own research? Don't make me laugh harder.

    As for danger, would you consider srokes, respiratory diseases, Alzheimers and diabetes dangerous? Should we avoid them if possible? Well, in 2021, COVID caused more deaths than these 4. Only cancer and heart disease caused more deaths. And COVID was the only communicable disease in the top 10 list.

    Sure, the majority of people were going to survive. A virus exists to replicate itself, and if a virus kills too many hosts, it will cause its own death by not having enough hosts to infect. The Spanish Flu had a 2.5% death rate. With 100 years of medical research since, it was always unlikely any virus would cause more.

    Still, millions died. Many of them potentially preventable, especially after the vaccine became available. The data is obvious. Vaccinated people have better survival rates.

    What data do you have? Show it. What are the safety signals rates? Heck, other than myocarditis, what are the safety signals? And with over 5.5 billion jsbs, if the data is being hidden, how are they doing it? I want hard evidence. None of your suppositions, innuendos, or other crap you espouse. Show your data.
     
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  19. docspor

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    Point taken. I tend not to be a grammar police & find it annoying….in that respect my post was hypocritical. You do this exact thing a lot & I guess this time I took the bait. I personally find rigid, formal grammar unnecessary in casual convo like here. Having said that, I do find your frequent use of incomplete sentences interesting. I guess this was my way of pointing it out. I’m sorry b/c in reality it’s nice to have variety. Congrats on that math score!
     
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  20. QGator2414

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    The shot does not work to keep you from getting the disease. But keep taking it is you wish. You are one of the very few still doing so…