Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Just so there is no argument, I do not doubt what you have seen through the years in line of work. I also think there is some definitional flexing going on. People get temporary inflamation of muscles, including the lining of the heart for many reasons and to greatly varying degrees. In many of these studies, the participants, as children, were very closely watched during the first 7-14 days for any indications and were then treated immediately to for safety reasons.

For your line of work, I suspect you would only see such patients in a clinical setting if the symptoms have existed for multiple days and are persistent. However, this must sure be just a subset of those who have inflamation around the heart.

That is all I know. The rest, is beyond my level of understanding.

 

I will agree with everything you posted here.

Viral pericarditis is pretty rare in most cases.
But I’ve never heard or seen of a case that lasts 1-2 days.

Certainly being watched closely may have picked up more cases and cases of a less severity. Just the fact that it was all over the news gave people a heightened awareness and they may have had a lower threshold to do detail testing.(echo/labs/etc).

Thanks for the polite discussion.

 

This study on myocarditis published in 2016 (pre COVID) said:

Many cases of myocarditis likely go undetected because of asymptomatic presentations or nonspecific symptoms. For example, a recent study suggests that smallpox vaccination results in ≈1:200 patients having elevated troponin levels, whereas the prevalence of myocarditis has been estimated at ≈1:5500.
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Someone working at a clinic wouldn't see too many cases of myocarditis, because most go undiagnosed and self correct quickly. It's only under stricter scrutiny do we see the case numbers rise.

 

You’re both wrong. There never was a virus. There was only a fraudulent test and amplified panic.

 

It’s possible that myocarditis is on the rise because we’re looking for it. But what about persistent, staggering excess deaths in highly vaccinated countries ?

 

Scorn and defiance, slight regard … add: uproarious laughter …

 

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Says the guy who keeps posting data showing the shot is very effective.

 

No. The shot is not effective at all. Hence no one is taking it anymore. Well a vet small percentage.

 

The last time you posted data, it showed the vaccine was very effective. The time before that as well. And the time before that. In fact, every time you have posted data in this thread, it has shown the vaccine to be very effective.

 

Depends on the metric you use. Effective at preventing illness? At around 50%, not great. Effective at preventing hospitalization and death? Incredibly effective. And these metrics are much more important than preventing getting sick. Would be nice if the vaccine gave immunity, but what's so bad about preventing thousands from dying, and tens of thousands from a hospital visit?

 

The shot has been ineffective since delta.

 

If you are naive enough to believe that the shot is around 50% effective at preventing illness then you are just as naive to believe that since the middle of 2021 less than 50% of the deaths were fully vaccinated as reality was more than 50% of the deaths were fully vaccinated. And that by early 2022 less than 90% of the deaths were fully vaccinated as it was more than 90% of the deaths were fully vaccinated.

But hey. You keep taking an ineffective shot designed for the alpha variant that worked for like three months on the alpha variant if you wish. Seroprevalence has made that unnecessary. But big pharma appreciates you!

 

Yes, the most recent bivalent booster reduces your risk of getting infected from COVID around 50%. And unlike you, I understand statistics. Denominators matter. If 100% of the population was vaccinated, and just 1 person died, then you would idiotically claim the vaccine didn't work, since 100% of the population was vaccinated. But if you compared a population with the same number of people, same ages that were unvaccinated, and 100 people died, then the vaccine you claim is ineffective would have saved 99 lives!

We do agree that the elderly are more likely to be seriously infected with COVID. And as of April 2023, 94% of the people 65 and older were vaccinated. We also know that in the state of Washington, those 65 and older are nearly twice as likely to die if unvaccinated (1.8X). So let's take a population of 1,000 people, ages 65 and older. 940 of them would be vaccinated, and only 60 unvaccinated. Let's say 1 of the unvaccinated people dies of COVID. Statistically, 9 (8.7 if we aren't rounding) would also die from COVID, and you would say see, the vaccine didn't work, 90% of the people dying from COVID are vaccinated! But the reality? The vaccine saved 7 lives because at the vaccinated died at the same rate as the unvaccinated, there would have been 16 total deaths from the vaccinated population.

If you just look at total deaths and percent population vaccinated that died, you are making a huge math error. And are falsely believing the vaccine is ineffective at saving lives. This has been explained to you time and time again, and if you continue with your ignorance, you have only yourself to blame.

 

Wholly fraudulent deductions as there never was a virus of any kind.

 

Keep being part of the minority the propaganda duped! LOL!

 

Keep being an ignoramus that doesn't understand percentages and math. They say ignorance is bliss, but it's also the most dangerous form of stupidity.

 

Ignorance is apparently bliss. The sick craving of imagining you lived through a killer pathogen.

 

Everything she said was true. And she still won a second term!