Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    15,469
    1,129
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    In fact, in 2020, the closer you were to NYC/NJ, the likelier you were to die.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  2. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    15,469
    1,129
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    The “viral” cause of disease theory is based on multiple layers of false assumptions derived from artificially created laboratory conditions, by those with vested interests in perpetuating it.

    T.C. Fry
     
  3. citygator

    citygator VIP Member

    10,511
    2,336
    3,303
    Apr 3, 2007
    Charlotte
    I just popped in to see how this thread could still be going and I see G95 is simply calling people "morons" and Duggers is talking to himself. Lol. It's like walking onto the set of "One flew over the cuckoos nest".
     
    • Funny Funny x 3
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  4. ncargat1

    ncargat1 VIP Member

    14,308
    6,271
    3,353
    Dec 11, 2009
    No. April of 2021 we had barely rolled out vaccines. All focus was to step up medical interventions, people were dying in the thousands per day as recently as Feb/Mar of that year. There were almost no studies of how the virus kinetics, transmission, mutation, effective non-medical interventions and why they were effective.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  5. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

    18,014
    1,435
    1,308
    Aug 24, 2009
    Ocala
    In April of 2021 we were close to coercing healthy people that we knew were at little to no risk of disease into taking a new shot they did not need. A shot that never would have been given authorization or approval for healthy people if we followed basic medicine and science.

    But here you are still defending the fear that paralyzed your ability to rationally analyze the situation.
     
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 1
  6. AzCatFan

    AzCatFan GC Hall of Fame

    11,826
    1,089
    1,618
    Apr 9, 2007
    Basic medicine and science for any new drug in the US is 3 phases, each increasing in participation sizes. A fourth of the third one has inconclusive data.

    The inert materials in the mRNA vaccine underwent three trials back in 2013 for ebola. No vaccine was ever mass produced because the epidemic petered out before it was deemed necessary. The COVID vaccine, with the COVID mRNA went through all three trial phases, and the results were more than consistent a fourth trial was deemed unnecessary.

    To say we didn't follow basic medicine and science with the vaccine is an outright lie. The vaccine went through the same trial phases all new drugs do through. Yes, results were fast tracked, but given COVID was the 3rd leading cause of death, it made sense.

    And today, COVID is still the 4th leading cause of death, with the overwhelmingly majority of them preventable with the vaccine.
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 1
  7. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

    18,014
    1,435
    1,308
    Aug 24, 2009
    Ocala
    The fear/propaganda has paralyzed your ability to analyze…

    Healthy people have never been at real risk where a new drug that now has known safety signals should ever be taken.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Dislike Dislike x 1
  8. ncargat1

    ncargat1 VIP Member

    14,308
    6,271
    3,353
    Dec 11, 2009
    Correction. The most effective vaccine developed in the past 50 years with minimal safety signals other than the ones idiot ring-wing immoral scumbag right-wing faux medical experts made up, and their sheep following continued to repeat over and over again in true propagandist style.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 1
  9. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

    18,014
    1,435
    1,308
    Aug 24, 2009
    Ocala
    You are smart enough to know this disease killed elderly especially with comorbidities from the beginning. We now have three years of data to confirm what we knew at the very beginning.

    You are paralyzed by the fear and propaganda. You are smart. But you were duped by this one.
     
  10. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

    18,014
    1,435
    1,308
    Aug 24, 2009
    Ocala
    My parents are in to watch the kiddos while the wife and I get away in St Pete for two nights.

    Of all things…my mom commented today at lunch before we left that she is glad she got Covid in 2020 which led to her not taking the shot. I can’t say I disagree. Because I would have recommended it had she not gotten Covid.
     
  11. ncargat1

    ncargat1 VIP Member

    14,308
    6,271
    3,353
    Dec 11, 2009
    It is hillarious how those who are mostly easily duped, befuddled and lied to are the ones who mostly loudly accuse of others of falling to that very fate.

    You are simply too invested in this stream of lies and false narratives to admit your hero Lapado made up data, discounted real data and published an outright lie. A lie that fit your confirmation bias so you swallowed it hook line a sinker.

    I would explain further, but it is evident either you are incapable of following, or you choose not to and are simply willfully ignorant because you cannot admit how wrong you have been on almost everything.
     
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Agree Agree x 1
  12. BigCypressGator1981

    BigCypressGator1981 GC Hall of Fame

    6,358
    1,294
    3,103
    Oct 11, 2011
    Right?!? That needle would have required a little bandaid! Can’t have your poor momma getting a shot now!
     
  13. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

    18,014
    1,435
    1,308
    Aug 24, 2009
    Ocala
    We surely have a few here still lol…

     
    Last edited: Sep 14, 2023
    • Funny Funny x 1
  14. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

    18,014
    1,435
    1,308
    Aug 24, 2009
    Ocala
    LOL!

    Nope. She decided to avoid the unnecessary shot with superior protection…
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  15. BigCypressGator1981

    BigCypressGator1981 GC Hall of Fame

    6,358
    1,294
    3,103
    Oct 11, 2011
    and thank god! Heavens to betsy her arm might have gotten sore! Can you imagine!?
     
  16. gatorpa

    gatorpa GC Hall of Fame

    10,861
    923
    698
    Sep 5, 2010
    East Coast of FL
    Curious what the average BMI in those poorly performing states were. Although it’s a poor measure we know higher BMI means more likely HTN,DM etc which were strong predictors for bad covid outcomes.

    Can’t so for sure but I bet the BMI in the upper NE is markedly lower than OK,AL,WVA,MS.
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 2
  17. gatorpa

    gatorpa GC Hall of Fame

    10,861
    923
    698
    Sep 5, 2010
    East Coast of FL
    Perhaps NY did better in 21 because the most at risk for death had already died in 2020?
     
    • Winner Winner x 2
  18. gatorpa

    gatorpa GC Hall of Fame

    10,861
    923
    698
    Sep 5, 2010
    East Coast of FL
    I did the same.

    Not much has changed.

    The horse is paste.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  19. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    86,946
    26,040
    4,613
    Apr 3, 2007
    Interesting, and many also had diabetes. But one element that is not even being looked into is Candida, which is easily controlled with over the counter solutions.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  20. BigCypressGator1981

    BigCypressGator1981 GC Hall of Fame

    6,358
    1,294
    3,103
    Oct 11, 2011
    I imagine this also a big reason Scandinavian countries did well. They aren’t teeming with fatties like the US is.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2