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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. QGator2414

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    Watch the video and let me know what you think.
     
  2. BigCypressGator1981

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    Shave off your eye brows and let me know what you think.
     
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  3. gatorpa

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    What is being detoxed and why is it contagious?

    Please explain the mechanism of “detox” that illicits fevers to 105?

    Psychosomatic illness?
     
  4. gatorpa

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    Interesting the WHO now only recommending boosters for high risk individuals.

    “March 28 (Reuters) - The World Health Organization has tailored its COVID-19 vaccination recommendations for a new phase of the pandemic, suggesting that healthy children and adolescents may not necessarily need a shot but older, high-risk groups should get a booster between 6 to 12 months after their last vaccine.”

    “The health agency defined high-risk populations as older adults, as well as younger people with other significant risk factors. For this group, the agency recommends an additional shot of the vaccine either 6 or 12 months after the latest dose, based on factors such as age and immunocompromising conditions.”

    “Meanwhile, it said healthy children and adolescents were "low priority" for COVID-19 vaccination, and urged countries to consider factors like disease burden before recommending vaccination of this group. It said the COVID-19 vaccines and boosters were safe for all ages, but the recommendations took into account other factors like cost-effectiveness.”


    WHO revises COVID-19 vaccine recommendations for Omicron-era


    I’m sure this will fire up the debate a bit.
     
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  5. BigCypressGator1981

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    Not really. The virus has weakened substantially since omicron.
     
  6. QGator2414

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    About right. Perfect response from the anti-science crowd.
     
  7. QGator2414

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    Honestly it took way too long. And also at this point. There is no reason for a booster regardless of risk factor. If they were trying to guess at the variant like the flu shot…they would have some credibility with a reason to take it. But even then…the mRNA shots likely should be shelved.

    The mice are not quick enough to keep up. :D
     
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  8. gator95

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    This is what happens when an organization looks at the science. Unfortunately the politically motivated CDC won't do this. I've been saying we don't need to vaccinate kids for well over a year now. Don't worry though, the head grifter will be along to say the WHO is wrong LOL.
     
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  9. gatorpa

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    And Omincron started rolling through in Summer of 2021, funny that some still chastise people for not being double vaxxed and double boosted.
     
  10. duchen

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    I know a bunch of people who have had it recently or have it now. Spring break wave again. Initial lethargy, high fever for a day, lethargy, cough and then her over it in 5-7 days. Home tests so they are not being reported systemically. No reports of hospitals overwhelmed. So we are in a good place. The vaccines and infection immunity have helped all of us. The virus seems to have mutated to a less virulent form in response to immense systems. Still Sucks to get sick.
     
  11. duggers_dad

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    Nobody ever got sick before 2020.
     
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  12. AzCatFan

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    This is about triage. Not all countries have vaccines available to all. The WHO is simply recommending vaccinating the most vulnerable first, and consider the cost/benefit analysis of vaccinating all. From the article:

    Meanwhile, it said healthy children and adolescents were "low priority" for COVID-19 vaccination, and urged countries to consider factors like disease burden before recommending vaccination of this group. It said the COVID-19 vaccines and boosters were safe for all ages, but the recommendations took into account other factors like cost-effectiveness.
    Here in the US, we have the resources to have plenty of vaccine available. We also have about 45% of all adults having at least one listed comorbidity. It makes sense here, with the resources available, to continue to promote vaccinations for all. It's not like if we vaccinate a healthy teen, we won't have enough to vaccinate a senior. Other countries? May not have the money to be able to afford both doses. And clearly, the senior needs the vaccine before the teen in almost all cases.
     
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  13. gator95

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    The Grift continues! Can't admit when they are wrong. Too funny.
     
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  14. duggers_dad

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    If there was a deadly pathogen for which vaccines were the necessary preventive, why did low-vaccinated countries typically fare better than high-vaccinated countries ?
     
  15. AzCatFan

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    Funny how a direct quote from the article a previous poster linked is now considered "grifting?" Again, that's the entire response, which is now to be expected. Guess that poster has zero ability to engage in actual debate and attempt to even try and prove that my point is incorrect.

    As for "better" outcomes in poor countries, there's a simple answer. Poor countries have poor vital registries and difficulties in counting both positive cases and deaths from said cases. From this study:

    More recently, however, it has become clear that the perceived differences in mortality may have been illusory, reflecting poor vital statistics systems leading to under-reporting of COVID-19 deaths.

    As shown in table 1, mortality attributable to COVID-19 in many developing locations exceeds 2000 deaths per million. Of the 12 nations with the highest number of deaths attributed to COVID-19, eight are developing countries. Furthermore, these statistics may understate the true death toll in a number of lower-income and middle-income countries. Numerous studies of excess mortality have underscored the limitations of vital registration and death reporting, particularly in developing countries.1 2 5–9 For example, recent studies of India have found that actual deaths from COVID-19 were about 10 times higher than those in official reports.2 5 Similarly, a study in Zambia found that only 1 in 10 of those who died with COVID-19 symptoms and whose postmortem COVID-19 test was positive were recorded as COVID-19 deaths in the national registry.10 Strikingly, the continuation of that study has demonstrated the catastrophic impact of COVID-19 in Zambia, raising the overall mortality by as much as 5–10 times relative to a normal year.11
     
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  16. HeyItsMe

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    Per usual, all you get back is a laughing emoji. The guy is absolutely pathetic, and he has the gall to call others bullies.
     
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  17. BigCypressGator1981

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    Who is chastising? Honest question. And omicron peaked in January of 22.
     
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  18. duggers_dad

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    You say ‘variant.’

    I ask: varies from what ?
     
  19. l_boy

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    Well my 90 year parents seem to have fully recovered from Covid last week, it never was too bad. While we can never know the counterfactual I have to believe 5 shots and Paxlovid made a difference.
     
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  20. duggers_dad

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    All the dead vaccinated would likely have died worse were they not vaccinated.
     
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