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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. gator95

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    The authors of the study didn’t say that at all. That’s where politics came into play. You see you are falling for it. The authors of the study stand by their work. And now you making up numbers like the cdc was doing 2X or 3X. Let’s not make up stuff let’s deal in facts. Fact is no RCT on masks has said masks work effectively to prevent a respiratory virus. The rest is just BS and you and millions of others fell for it.
     
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  2. duggers_dad

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    Outnumbered by the herd.
     
  3. gator95

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    LOL. Lemmings believe anything they are told.
     
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  4. tilly

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    Sorta more like between there was no psychosis and crime and there were a lot of false numbers to embellish the data.

    Sorta like none of us will likely know.
     
  5. duggers_dad

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    Well, I agree we’ll probably never have a firm figure on the number of lives extinguished/destroyed by a figment.
     
  6. mikemcd810

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    I tried but I give up. Count me as the latest in what was probably a long line of posters in this thread who have just been beaten down by stubborness and unwillingness to think beyond overly simplistic conclusions.
     
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  7. duggers_dad

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    Unicornists are the stubbornest people I know. One side thinks they’re deadly. The other side thinks that they are deadly to some, but that we shouldn’t have hid from them for months.
     
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  8. duggers_dad

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    It’s okay, Michal. It’s been a nightmare for all of us ...

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  10. QGator2414

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    You got the last part right. And we certainly caused unnecessary damage ignoring science and what we knew.

    You are a perfect definition of showing how powerful propaganda is…
     
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  11. duggers_dad

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    40% of Brits still testing at least once a month, some once a day. Health experts alarmed by rise in cases. Nobody makes the connection.
     
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  12. gator95

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    Oh no, another Sweden article! Don't worry, our local charlatan will be along to say Sweden actually locked down and closed schools for long stretches and everyone self quarantined LOL. You can't fix stupid.

    Allison Pearson meets Anders Tegnell: ‘Lockdown was never on the agenda in Sweden’

    In March 2020, as, one by one, every country in the Western world succumbed to panic and imposed a lockdown on its population, Sweden’s state epidemiologist held his nerve and stuck to the plan. The Swedish people would be given sensible advice and told to work from home wherever possible, but apart from a ban on gatherings of over 50 people and a few rules for restaurants, any Covid measures were entirely voluntary. Anders Tegnell simply didn’t think the evidence supported a lockdown.
     
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  13. duggers_dad

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  14. AzCatFan

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    Again, Sweden has some inherent advantages to combat a virus that is mostly spread airborne, person-to-person. For example, 47% of of Swedish households are single occupancy, and the average persons per household in Sweden in 2.1. In the US, the number of single occupancy households is about 27%, and the average household has 2.5 persons. To put this in perspective, if 100,000 people had COVID in Sweden and 100,000 people had it in the US, 40,000 more people in the US would have been exposed to COVID in the home. Which country would you expect to have a higher RO? Which country would you expect to have a higher mortality rate? I'm sure you won't answer anything other than "grifter" and "charlatan", because that's the extend of your intellect when posed with facts that contradict your opinion.

    Furthermore, while Sweden didn't enact any lockdown policies, it did highly suggest all to work from home. I've already linked that the Swedes responded and Stockholm became the leading large city with nearly 50% of its inhabitants working from home during the height of the pandemic. This was about double the pre-pandemic wfh rate. In the US, the number of wfh did triple, but it only went from just under 6% to just under 18%. Now, let's think. Using percent change in mobility, which country would show a higher percent mobility change? The country that doubled its wfh rate? Or the country that more than tripled it? Now, using our critical thinking ability, knowing the actual rates, which county will fare better from an airborne virus, the country with 50% wfh, or the country with only 18%? You really don't need to be a charlatan or grifter to figure this one out, do you?

    In addition, lets also remember that Sweden is top 5 in Europe in vaccination rates, and top 4 if you remove countries with less than 1 million population. There is a direct correlation between increased vaccination rate and decreased excess mortality rates worldwide. Since the vaccine became available, you would expect to see countries with higher vaccination rates having lower excess mortality rates, which is exactly what we do see.

    Bottom line, anyone looking at just the excess mortality numbers from Sweden and saying that could have worked here in the US is the true charlatan. We have a significant higher number of persons per household, significantly lower work-from-home percentage, and a lower vaccination rate. And while people are entitled to their own opinion, they aren't entitled to their own facts. And only grifters ignore inconvenient facts in an attempt to convince themselves their opinion is right.
     
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  15. gator95

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    Grifter right on cue LOL. I posted all the times this clown posted how Sweden wasn't following what everyone else was doing and was terrible. Now this poster is talking out of both sides of their mouth. Too funny. And yet people still think he knows what he's talking about. Can't fix stupid.
     
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  16. AzCatFan

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    Charlatan right on cue. Can't respond to the facts posted, and resorts to nothing but childish name calling. Care to explain how a Swedish style policy might work in the US when you take these facts into consideration? 1) Sweden has an average person per household at 2.1 and the US had an average of 2.5. 2) Sweden's work-from-home rate was nearly 2.5X that of the US during the height of COVID.

    Again, only grifters completely ignore facts that completely undermine their arguments.
     
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  17. duggers_dad

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    Grifters and charlatans alike cling tightly to the bogus narrative of a deadly pathogen. Even when it’s clear that excess deaths can easily be explained by the effects of panic and despair.
     
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  18. gator95

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    Some people wont quit. Keep digging that hole. When one can't admit they were wrong on pretty much every covid measure taken why would that person expect others to even pay attention to what they say? I guess if someone was delusional and a narcissist would explain it LOL.
     
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  19. AzCatFan

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    Some people can't argue. They see facts that should call their belief narrative into question, and instead of being intellectually curious and attempt to understand why the facts don't fit, they resort to name calling and ad hominem attacks, because that's all they are capable of.
     
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  20. GatorJMDZ

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    Are you STILL pushing this BS?

    MISINFORMATION ALERT
     
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