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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. philnotfil

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    A person's job and their qualifications aren't always the same thing. He is managing his family business instead of using his multiple degrees from UF in other things. That doesn't mean he isn't qualified to comment on these things.

    What makes his posts useless isn't his job, it is his inability to understand statistics. What makes his posts unbearable is his arrogance in believing that he knows what he is talking about despite the mountain of evidence that he doesn't.
     
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  2. duggers_dad

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    What statistics ?
     
  3. GatorJMDZ

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    I was bored so here you go. Starting at 12:42 p.m. yesterday afternoon and going to 10:54 p.m. last night, a period of 10 hours and 12 minutes (all p.m.):
    12:42, 2:06, 3:19, 3:21, 3:48, 3:51, 4:04, 5:31, 6:26, 6:32, 7:08, 7:10, 7:12, 7:14, 7:48, 7:51, 7:52, 8:54, 8:55, 8:56, 9:23, 9:26, 9:43, 9:50, 9:51, 10:08, 10:11 & 10:54.

    Let me guess, you ate dinner at 6:35 and went to bed at 11:00.

    28 posts in this one thread over 10.25 hours where maybe 5 people agree with you and the rest fully understand you are incorrect. Sure looks like spamming to me.
     
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  4. philnotfil

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    By what metrics?
     
  5. QGator2414

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    We knew far more than you think.

    I was on the phone with the Florida Dental Association calling for DeSantis to lift the ban on our ability to care for our patients. I sat in the office of the Oral Surgeon we work with March 23, 2020 discussing how to move forward. As we sat there in comes a file from a new patient we had recently referred over for a suspicious spot…cancer positive. That patient would not have been allowed to have their appointment and the screening that happens ever time you visit a dentist would not have been able to catch the issue. Is this a common occurrence. No. But for 7 weeks we were not allowed to care for our patients. Worse was the patients missing appointments deemed non emergency when they were really sick with cardiovascular disease or a more common disease.

    There was never a reason to shut down for 2 months. I could get to two weeks though I would have disagreed with it.

    The fear mongering used to peddle the propaganda is felt to this day. It is unfortunate.
     
  6. QGator2414

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    Not sure the what this has to do with the topic. But meets your normal posts on this thread that do not address the topic but instead the poster you disagree with.
     
  7. QGator2414

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    Business. People moving here in record numbers. Quality of Life. Education.

    It is great to be a Floridian!
     
  8. docspor

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    so sad. Writes topic sentence. Nothing that follows has anything to do with it.
     
  9. QGator2414

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    I said he was wrong. But at the same time compared to the rest of the states…he was the Gold Standard.
     
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  10. docspor

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    Cows are mammals.

    I was on the phone with the Florida Dental Association calling for DeSantis to lift the ban on our ability to care for our patients. I sat in the office of the Oral Surgeon we work with March 23, 2020 discussing how to move forward. As we sat there in comes a file from a new patient we had recently referred over for a suspicious spot…cancer positive. That patient would not have been allowed to have their appointment and the screening that happens ever time you visit a dentist would not have been able to catch the issue. Is this a common occurrence. No. But for 7 weeks we were not allowed to care for our patients. Worse was the patients missing appointments deemed non emergency when they were really sick with cardiovascular disease or a more common disease.

    There was never a reason to shut down for 2 months. I could get to two weeks though I would have disagreed with it.

    The fear mongering used to peddle the propaganda is felt to this day. It is unfortunate.
     
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  11. QGator2414

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    We did know far more. They kept so much silent. The fatality rate was never going to be close to what the ridiculous models showed. We knew NI was a thing. Shoot…asymptomatic spread has disappeared because it never was a thing. It is just not a major way the disease spreads. Was there some pre symptomatic spread? Sure. They knew that driving the fear of asymptomatic spread…they could control people.

    They knew masks did not work. They knew far sooner that you did not need to wash your mail when you received it. It was insane the nonsense they got so many to believe.
     
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  12. duggers_dad

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    I agree there was no reason to shut down for two months for a fictitious pathogen. Best that could be said is the DeSantis was one of the taller midgets in the room.
     
  13. l_boy

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    It really is strange. The compulsive obsession on this one issue. I really don’t get it.
     
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  14. QGator2414

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    Definitely a post fitting of you.

    Feel better?
     
  15. duggers_dad

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    If by “this one issue” you mean mass-psychosis and crimes against humanity ... why aren’t we talking about the Gators’ new defensive coordinator ?
     
  16. BigCypressGator1981

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    Literally cackling at my desk right now.
     
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  17. l_boy

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    This is a fair point, but in March 2020 this was all very new, we had seen horrible outbreaks in Italy and NYC, and dentistry would at least superficially seem like a much more dangerous environment for respiratory infection spread with dentals professionals and patients having their faces near each other for extended periods of time, usually with patients mouth wide open. Unless I had a known serious dental risk I wouldn’t have wanted to go there during that phase. A few months down the road the risk was at least becoming somewhat more measurable.
     
  18. mikemcd810

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    This latest anecdote is in no way related but here goes. What you describe is the type of difficult decision on tradeoffs that leaders had to consider. People were dying from covid at that point. Instituting preventative measures meant saving lives at the expense of things like precautionary screenings. There wasn't an obvious or right answer. Based on the deaths, available information, and unknowns, it was a perfectly dependable position to issue stay at home orders to save lives. They also didn't have the luxury of making a decision based on a single cancer screening success story because I can guarantee you for every one of those there was a story about someone who died because they went to a hospital or dental office for a routine procedure.
     
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  19. QGator2414

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    That is not my job. It was a clear attack to insinuate I work a meaningless low level position. Definitely an ignorant take. But that is what it was. And they and you know that.

    Sad you would defend the post. Really hope you treat people better in real life. Because our front desk and the front desk at any office Dental/medical/insurance/you name it…are vital positions and will treat you with respect. Even though you apparently see them as lesser. Really sad!
     
  20. BigCypressGator1981

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    I think you have Q on ignore so this one flew over your head.
     
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