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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. duggers_dad

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    Lockdowns were an unproven theory, an uncontrolled experiment.
     
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  2. gator95

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    Wow, I thought people gave up on the bogus Kansas Mask "study". I guess that grift is still out there LOL. If you compare like size counties and not compare large counties with small counties to make your numbers look good you get far different results. But of course anyone who really cared about this would've known about this. I covered this about 2 years ago LOL.

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    So yeah, lets not use CDC propaganda going forward. Let's use the RCT's that are available that show masks don't work. It's ok to admit you were wrong for 3 years.
     
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  3. gator95

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    No, we had many RCT's before Covid that showed masks don't work. Hell, it was said in CDC/WHO documents that masks don't work. But hey, keep thinking we had no idea about masks pre 2020.
     
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  4. duggers_dad

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    “Do something” is never sound policy.
     
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  5. gator95

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    Comical coming from the pro-Lockdown, school closure, mask and forced child vax contingent.
     
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  6. duggers_dad

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    Pro-do something proponents argue from the consequent. Basically, “If we didn’t do this and this and this it would have been worse.” It’s like saying had I not sprayed my yard, for unicorns, my yard would have been destroyed.
     
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  7. philnotfil

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    Sounds like something that a couple of countries tried, and then abandoned as their deaths outpaced their peers.
     
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  8. duggers_dad

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    Sweden didn’t abandon it’s approach of killing people by other means.
     
  9. g8trjax

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    Most of the butthurt on the left still stems from the abject failure to implement any kind of permanent covid mandates and tracking systems, not that they won't keep trying but covid was their big chance that got away.
     
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  10. HeyItsMe

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    Did you wear your tin foil hat while posting this?
     
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  11. gator95

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    Sounds like you won't admit masks don't work, even facing the abundance of evidence contrary to your belief.
     
  12. duggers_dad

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    Conspiracy theorists are people who are tired of being right all the time.
     
  13. QGator2414

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    The place where you quarantine to a room in the house. That place…
     
  14. QGator2414

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    Nonsense. We went with the unproven theory and caused generational damage. The proven theory has always been to protect the vulnerable the best you can.
     
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  15. BigCypressGator1981

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    Why does one quarantine to a different room? Are you suggesting close proximity to an infected person increases the chances of contracting the virus?
     
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  16. AzCatFan

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    The Great Barrington Declaration has some major flaws. Including putting individual freedom over the public good, and offering no actual details on how to protect just the vulnerable. 18% of US households are multi-generational. How do you protect Grandma if she lives in a household with someone who goes to work every day, and kids who go to school every day? Do you ship her off to a senior living facility? And what about those who work in a senior living facility? Do you isolate them so they cannot pick up the virus and bring it to work? And what about parents with a comorbidity that puts them at higher risk of COVID? What do you do with them?

    As to the first point of putting individual freedom over public health, the results speak for themselves in the UK, which first tried to follow the Great Barrington Declaration. The result? The policy was called the worst public health failure ever! Thousands of people needlessly, and the UK quickly reversed course. But the damage was already done.

    Sweden may have been the only country where the Declaration might have worked. But they have unique living conditions not seen in many other countries. For example, 45% of Swedish households are single occupancy. Compare that to the US, where 1 in 5 households are multi-generational, and you can see why implementing a strategy in Sweden that isolates the elderly is going to be fundamentally different than attempting the same in the US.
     
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  17. VAg8r1

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    Obviously anecdotal, based on actual experience my guess is that by the time a person tests positive for Covid everyone else in the house is almost certainly already infected with the virus. Isolation is essentially an exercise in futility.
     
  18. QGator2414

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    Yep. Mask or no mask this disease is going to spread.

    But I am sure you were great at virtue signaling away in public with your mask while you put your family in danger at home…
     
  19. QGator2414

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    Possibly. We know the mask was an exercise in futility. Well virtue in public I suppose.
     
  20. BigCypressGator1981

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    So distancing does matter? Please try to be consistent. You said distancing yourself from others who might be sick was junk science. Totally made up.
     
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