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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

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    As expected. No concern for how others wish to take care of themselves. No concern for health freedom. You can advocate all you want. But you support mandates. In fact you probably still support keeping Dokovic from being able to come to this country? The antithesis of science and medicine being defined by the idiots leading our country. Want to know why people are not listening to people like you/the cdc/the fda anymore? Because it is anti science/anti medicine policies that are not even ignorant that are being pushed forth. The policies are stupid.
     
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  2. QGator2414

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    Far more effective to cough and sneeze into your arm where the particles all go into a solid mass (your body).

    In 2020 all of a sudden masks work differently and have a different purpose. And people are still falling for this. At the same time none of the people who have fallen this wore or still wear a mask at home with their loved ones (well I have a hard time believing that is the case). Which is the number one place the disease spreads.

    Masks are meant to protect the wearer from splatter.
     
  3. QGator2414

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    Did you wear/do you still wear your mask at home? The number one place this disease spreads.
     
  4. AzCatFan

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    Public health means health for all. In times of a global pandemic, that means making decisions for the greater good that not everyone will agree or like. Like shutdowns. But the data proved shutdowns saved lives. And the one country that tried the Great Barrington Declaration, the UK, abandoned it in six weeks, after hospitalization and death rates skyrocketed!

    The reason people aren't listening are because of people like you. You say what people want to hear, which is effective when the experts are saying things people need to hear, but don't want to hear it. You also take a single truth and then draw an incorrect conclusion from it that spreads disinformation. And because you start with a truth, people believe ignorantly.

    For example, there is a risk of myocarditis with the vaccine. That's a truth. But your conclusion that the vaccine is causing the higher rate of cardiac events is false. The evidence doesn't support this conclusion at all. In fact, the evidence is in the contrary, showing the vaccine prevents cardiac events.

    Another truth you start with is the vaccine was fast tracked to approval. Your conclusion states because of this, it can't be trusted. But again, your conclusion is false. The vaccine was fast tracked for good reason and easily explained. For example, results of trials usually sit on shelves for weeks, if not months, as prior study data is analyzed. But the COVID vaccine was promoted to always first in line, cutting months of inefficient waiting before approval. Unless you think data just sitting waiting for analysis is an important step in vaccine approval, there were no corners cut.

    You and your ilk are the dangerous ones causing damage. The death of expertise might be the worst, lasting legacy of social media. Why listen to experts when the guy on YouTube in a lab coat is telling you what you want to hear!
     
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  5. QGator2414

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    Now you are making stuff up. No one said to do nothing. But certainly some things should not have been done. While other things should have been done.

    Masks were nothing but a virtue signal from the beginning. They did nothing when it comes to the spread of Covid. I take that back. There were probably some people who actually believed these idiots saying masks worked and went out Covid positive wearing their mask. Putting others at risk.
     
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  6. QGator2414

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    Lockdowns killed. You have no clues about the consequences of our actions. We told people to not seek health care unless it was an “emergency”. That is sick and evil.

    You were so wrong on how to approach this. Unfortunately a lot of people were duped like you. Thankfully you are now in the minority.
     
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  7. philnotfil

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    When we had covid cases in the house (twice), they had to wear masks (N95s). They didn't spread the disease to the rest of us. Maybe it was the masks, maybe it was random chance.
     
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  8. mikemcd810

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    So no masks and no lock downs. We'll just tell everyone to sneeze into their sleeves. Problem solved.
     
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  9. AzCatFan

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    And your solution was so great, the UK abandoned it in six weeks after skyrocketing COVID death rates. Maybe the lockdowns killed, but so did the virus. Global pandemics often cause no-win scenarios that force extremely difficult decisions. When this happens, the best course is generally follow the advise of the experts.

    But the experts, who were calling for lockdowns were made into villains by people like you. And instead of listening to the advise of experts, you listened to those telling you what you wanted to hear. And ignored the data, instead, you took partial truths, and came up with false conclusions. You then spread the misinformation through social media, and because people wanted to hear it, they believed it. It's sad.
     
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  10. GatorJMDZ

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    The amount of misinformation generated by your keyboard is staggering.
     
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  11. QGator2414

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    So you did not follow public health advice and wear your mask at home but only out in public? What great virtue…

    At least you understand that healthy people are not spreading the disease.
     
  12. QGator2414

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    What an asinine response. That is not what I said at all. In responding to sneezing and coughing I made the point it would be more effective to do that into your arm.

    But hey. Go wear your mask and lock down by yourself that would have solved it…:rolleyes:
     
  13. QGator2414

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    The lockdowns did nothing to help. They only helped cause generational harm. They did allow those consumed by fear like you to think somehow you were going to be protected from Covid.
     
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  14. HeyItsMe

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    The guy afraid of everything, including a Roberto Clemente book ending up in the hands of his children, saying others lived in fear, LOL! Are you eyes naturally brown? Because you’re so full of shit you can’t see straight. Bring something of actual use to the discussion, links, articles from reputable sources stating and backing up your opinion, like Cat does. Otherwise it’s hard to take anything you say seriously given your history.
     
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  15. mikemcd810

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    You're very critical of the response and confident that masks and lockdowns were never the answer, so I'm just trying to understand how the initial response to Covid should have been handled in your view.
     
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  16. QGator2414

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    LOL!

    This is funny right here. Not afraid of anything. But you keep living in fear lol…
     
  17. QGator2414

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    The best General way to describe it would be the Great Barrington Declaration…

    Smart people who knew the numbers were inflated but also knew it was a terrible disease we were going to have to deal with.
     
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  18. BigCypressGator1981

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    You mean the place where you don’t/can’t socially distance from others?
     
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    Experts ? Pfft. You could have put a chiropractor in charge and there would have been far fewer deaths. Instead, establishing panic as policy resulted in mass-manslaughter.
     
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  20. mikemcd810

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    If you were in charge, you would have gone with an unproven theory that lacks detail in how to implement, is not aligned to the established pandemic playback response, and that's opposed by essentially every major health organization. Doesn't sound much like a follow the science approach. Sounds more like you would have been gambling with the lives of a lot of people.
     
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