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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. l_boy

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  2. QGator2414

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    I think you understand the purpose of the funny rating. The fact we are still authorizing these shots for young healthy people (healthy people for that matter) at this point is the antithesis of medicine and science. Instead of justifying why one jabbed their kid. We need to hold these people at Pfizer/Moderna/public health/fda accountable for authorizing a drug for a group that had no real risk from the disease and try and push it on a large population unnecessarily. These shots should have never been authorized for kids. Young healthy adults either.
     
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  3. Gatorrick22

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    What do you call a "Covid-19 vaccine" that does not keep you from getting Covid-19... that does not stop the spread of Covid-19.. that does not keep you from dying of Covid-19?

    I call that experimental " vaccine" an unnecessary risk.
     
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  4. docspor

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    the evolution is hysterical.....now he's upset about things that are authorized. mandated -> unnecessary/recommended -> authorized. On no breast cancer drugs have been.....authorized. oh, my goodness
     
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  5. BigCypressGator1981

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    Sure thing Qbot
     
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  6. l_boy

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    Do you understand why it doesn’t completely stop the spreading of the disease and isn’t 100% effective against death? I’ll explain it to you if you really want to know.
     
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  7. Gatorrick22

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    Yes, tell me something that I have read in the dozens of articles written by DOCTORS and healthcare professionals.
     
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  8. l_boy

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    Rick why all the funnies?
     
  9. QGator2414

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    Always a cute response…

     
  10. l_boy

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    Ok so you do know? Would you spell it out?
     
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  11. Gatorrick22

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    Just having some fun... nothing offensive.
     
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  12. antny1

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    Nope. There's been plenty of discourse that cited other issues outside of mandates that were politically neutral but you only respond with laugh emojis. I'm not defending the extreme takes on either side.
     
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  13. l_boy

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    Ok. So why do you think the vaccine isn’t always effective in the ways you described?
     
  14. docspor

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    [​IMG]
     
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  15. QGator2414

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    And it is well deserved at this point. These shots are not necessary anymore. And it has been that way for a while. Unfortunately the 8 mice did not catch the safety signal for the bivalent booster we now have for those over 65…
     
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  16. Gatorrick22

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    Judging from what I have already read, I do NOT think that there is concrete evidence that the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine works. One article suggested that the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine was 48% which means that at best it's less than 50% effective, if that can really be proven. And the FDA also asked that all of Pfizer's studies on that vaccine be sealed for 75 years. What do you think they are hiding?

    FDA says it needs 75 years to release Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine data to the public

    But that 75year wait just got tossed out by a federal judge - U.S. District Judge Mark Pittman.

    https://www.uspresidentialelectionn...ers-pfizer-vaccine-data-released-in-8-months/
     
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  17. docspor

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    So, what you are saying is that the GOVERNMENT should take a choice away from parents b/c of the damning indictment of unnecessariness?

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  18. l_boy

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    The efficacy against infection during the first few months, the antibody phase, has varied, mainly due to inception of variants. It started out 90% plus but is probably around 50% now. 50% is kind of what you get with the flu shot.

    Beyond a few months T cell protection against severe illness still is usually 80%+ effective, vs never having vaccine or natural immunity. T cells don’t protect (much) against Covid infection because Covid incubates faster than (2-3 days) than the T cells (4-5 days). Most other diseases take 7-14 days to incubate, so the T cells prevent infection, and thus mostly wipe out the spread of the disease.

    The disease is different, not so much the vaccine. It’s the same principle with Covid natural immunity and why it doesn’t prevent reinfection long term.
     
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    I don't have that data, Pfizer has not released it to the public.
     
  20. QGator2414

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    I am saying the government recklessly authorized a drug for kids. And they did so to help line the pockets of Big Pharma. Evil and disgusting!

    Worse is they actually still recommend it to this day for kids…

    Thankfully doctors are no longer listening to the idiotic guidance.
     
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