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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. HeyItsMe

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    As someone who has been vaccinated and boosted (just once, haven’t got subsequent boosters purely because I work remotely from home full time), I have yet to test positive for Covid. That said, the shot does NOT prevent you from getting Covid, it merely drastically reduces the side effects when you do get it. Nobody ever said if you get the shot you won’t catch the virus, lol. You know this, but choose to be willfully ignorant about it on purpose.
     
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  2. flgator2

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    AP FACT CHECK: Biden goes too far in assurances on vaccines (yahoo.com)

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden offered an absolute guarantee Wednesday that people who get their COVID-19 vaccines are completely protected from infection, sickness and death from the coronavirus. The reality is not that cut and dried.
     
  3. HeyItsMe

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    I can’t speak for what the president says, which was clearly wrong when stating it completely prevents infection, but as someone who works in the medical industry we’ve all known it has never completely prevented infection 100%. Just like the flu shot, which has a much lower efficacy, you can still catch it, your symptoms will just be reduced dramatically.
     
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  4. duchen

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    Initially it did prevent infection. But the virus mutated. There is a statistically significant difference in hospitalization and death rated between the vaccinated and unvaccinated. At this point, it is a matter of choice whether to get vaccinated. The vaccines served their purpose and the spread of the disease had a similar effect on educating immune systems
     
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  5. QGator2414

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    LOL!

     
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  6. flgator2

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    Natural immunity is far better, that's what a Uf doctor told me after I caught covid.
    But I was responding to your false claim that nobody ever said that, but the guy you voted for
     
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  7. g8trjax

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    Pandemic of the unvaccinated!! We all only heard that a thousand times... :emoji_joy:
     
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  8. AzCatFan

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    And hybrid immunity is even better than natural immunity. And Biden was wrong. But he is a politician, not a medical professional.
     
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  9. gator95

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    So one of the largest hospitals in the US has only had about 3 deaths due to covid in the last 6 months. Anyone believing the covid "death numbers" is stupid. No other way to say it politely.

     
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  10. flgator2

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    Lol, And you claim you follow the science
     
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  11. AzCatFan

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    I do. And I posted two, recent studies showing hybrid immunity is the strongest. And can't get hybrid immunity if you don't get vaccinated and/or boosters.

    Natural immunity is good, but hybrid is even better. And why wouldn't we want to lower our odds from serious illness as much as possible?
     
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  12. duggers_dad

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    No, vaccines do not prevent cough, congestion, fever, etc. And they certainly don’t reduce risk of death from age-old and very real causes. Essentially, stupendously, this is what is being claimed.

    THAT SAID, they certainly do appear to be harming and killing people in historic fashion.
     
  13. studegator

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  14. tilly

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    She is being very reasoned here. In one interview she even mentions gun shot victims being labeled as Covid deaths.

    This was one of CNN's go to experts during the height of the pandemic.

    She makes good points on why it seemed necessary at the time, but also excellent points on why we must revisit it and get it right.

    She also says that most of what we see now are less directly covid related than they were early on and seems skeptical of the current numbers.

    Her CNN colleagues seem stunned in her recent interviews.
     
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  15. duggers_dad

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    I know I couldn’t be happier ...

    Rejoice! The Toothy Tyrant is no more. Jacinda Arden, the “kind” and “empathetic” Queen of Woke who would lock her people in their homes for months on end following the appearance of a single case of COVID-19 and turned her island nation into a prison has announced she is to step down. With the economy tanking and her party headed for almost certain defeat in the election later this year, it can only be taken as an admission of failure. Her fanatical pursuit of zero-Covid, which involved the roll-out of vaccine passports, the sacking of workers who refused to get jabbed and had a catastrophic impact on the New Zealand economy, has had disastrous consequences. Ross Clark has written a suitably gloating piece in the Telegraph titled, ‘Poor Jacinda Ardern, defeated by her own vanity’ with the blurb: “She believed her own myth – that she was the most virtuous leader in the world. Then came the consequences of her disastrous actions.”

    Jacinda Ardern’s Resignation is an Admission of Failure – The Daily Sceptic
     
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  16. mdgator05

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    Their economy is "tanking" in that they have 6.5% annual GDP growth rates and 4.12% unemployment rate (compared to 4.11% in 2019 or 4.33% when she came into office).

    New Zealand Real GDP Growth | Economic Indicators | CEIC
    New Zealand Unemployment Rate 1991-2023.
     
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  17. Gatorrick22

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    Nothing to see here.

     
  18. gator95

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    Go look at my post about 3 Covid deaths in 6 months in one of the biggest hospitals in the country. Anyone using covid "deaths" at this point as a metric is just foolish.
     
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  19. dangolegators

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    The truth is somewhere in between. Covid is a factor in a lot of deaths. That doesn't mean it was the immediate primary cause of death.
     
  20. tilly

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    Agree.