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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. mdgator05

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    Confronted with data. Runs back to the talking points to avoid the actual data. And the cycle will repeat. You really have gotten high on your own supply.
     
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  2. g8trjax

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  3. dangolegators

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    And where have I claimed natural immunity is not superior? And speaking of ignoring stuff, your Lancet paper says "vaccination remains the safest and most optimal tool for protection against infection and COVID-19-related hospitalisation and death." Why are you ignoring that? And why are you ignoring all of the data that shows higher death rates for the unvaccinated?
     
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  4. dangolegators

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    It will never end. Facts and data are no match for his ignorance. And he has a lot more free time than the rest of us.
     
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  5. QGator2414

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    No. The data has shown natural immunity is superior. It shows most are are little to no risk from the disease. It shows there are definite safety signals and now we are observing what could be more serious safety signals.

    These shots are completely unnecessary at this point based on the data. But if you want to take one. Go for it. You especially don’t need one considering you just had Covid. Which by the way. Glad you are feeling better!
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    Sorry, the data shows that the vaccinations help prevent hospitalizations and deaths, especially amongst older people. Natural immunity wears off. The data shows that people who got the booster were less likely to have severe covid that requires hospitalization and less likely to die from covid.”

    This is absolutely implying the shots are superior.

    We know they are not necessary anymore. We know natural immunity is superior to the shots.

    But you still will not say it.
     
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  6. AzCatFan

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    The data shows that hybrid immunity is the best. And one cannot have hybrid immunity if they do not get the vaccine and subsequent boosters.

    Hybrid immunity (vaccination plus infection) is the most robust and long-lasting protection against COVID-19, according to a new study of Catalonian patients. The researchers also found antibodies were no longer detectable almost a year after non-vaccinated people had COVID-19, particularly people older than 60 years and smokers. The researchers’ final key finding was that the brand of vaccine impacts follow-up antibody levels.

    “Our data underscore the importance of vaccinating people even if they have been previously infected, and confirm that hybrid immunity is superior and more durable. This means that people who have been vaccinated but have not been infected would need a booster earlier than those who have,” points out Marianna Karachaliou, first author of the study together with Gemma Moncunill.
     
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  7. tilly

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    Why are we still discussing the pandemic that Biden deemed over months ago?
     
  8. Swamplizard

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  9. duggers_dad

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    ^ Because I’m just getting started on Crimes Against Humanity.
     
  10. l_boy

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    About 500 people a day are dying from Covid. Hospitalizations are higher than they have been in almost a year. The pandemic isn’t over. We’ve just decided to live with it.
     
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  11. duggers_dad

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    Number of people who’ve died of a fictitious pathogen: 0
     
  12. dangolegators

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    Sorry, the data shows that vaccinations help prevent hospitalizations and deaths, especially amongst older people.
     
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  13. QGator2414

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    You want to take unnecessary shots…go for it.

    Natural immunity is superior to the shots. We know this. There is no reason for a healthy person to put their body to work with new shots that have safety signals we know of and starting to show concerns for more.

    I know you are not concerned with science and asking questions. But if these shots and/or covid is causing SMI…it is going to be important we all know this so we can get proper care with our doctors.
     
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  14. QGator2414

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    The data shows natural immunity does it better. Take the shots. Keep
    Taking them. But they are unnecessary if you have had Covid or are healthy. At this point they are just unnecessary regardless.
     
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  15. dangolegators

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    Sorry, the data shows that vaccinations help prevent hospitalizations and deaths, especially amongst older people.
     
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  16. QGator2414

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    The data shows this disease is not that dangerous to most.
     
  17. AzCatFan

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    The data and research tell a different story. The first link was Portuguese. Here's another study published in the Lancet that also shows hybrid immunity to be the best. I will concede that Natural Immunity is superior than vaccine immunity for the most part. But do you have any studies that shows NI is superior to hybrid? Because I have now linked two studies that show hybrid is best.
     
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  18. AzCatFan

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    Most highly infectious diseases aren't deadly to most. If they were, they would kill too many hosts, and between the dead and those with immunity, herd immunity would be reached quickly, and the disease would quickly erase itself out of existence. Mortality rate for measles is 1.5 per 1000, mumps, 2 in 10000, and rubella after 1 year old is 1 in about 10000. Yet, the MMR vaccine is suggested for almost everyone.
     
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  19. duggers_dad

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    Why the preoccupation with immunity from a fictitious disease ?
     
  20. dangolegators

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    Yeah, at the current average of around 400 covid deaths day, only about 150,000 Americans will die from covid this year. That number could be reduced if more people got vaccinated or boosted. But thanks to misinformation peddlers like you, that is unlikely to happen.
     
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