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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. duggers_dad

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    My data showed that, among other things, “died suddenly” wasn’t an issue at all for those <65 who were unvaccinated in 2021 and 2022. But it was the #1 cause of death for those in that age group who were vaccinated in the same 2021-2022 timeframe. How will they explain that? Why is it just the vaccinated who are dying suddenly in large numbers?

    Now everyone can easily prove the vax should be stopped
     
  2. QGator2414

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    It got awfully quiet now that they found a safety signal in 65 and older with the unnecessary bivalent booster and not the 8 mice from the Pfizer trial.
     
  3. duggers_dad

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    Oh, it’ll heat back up. Sunk (psychological) costs means doubling and even tripling down.
     
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  4. Gatorrick22

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  6. QGator2414

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    This is exactly why it was criminal to push these shots on everyone. They were rushed to market. It is disheartening to know that fauci and his ilk likely will never be held accountable.
     
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  7. flgator2

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    Dr. Leana Wen slammed after admitting there's been 'overcounting' of COVID deaths: ‘TWO AND A HALF YEARS LATE’ (msn.com)

    Wen began her column with some apparent skepticism about the CDC’s latest COVID-19 death stats, saying, "According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the United States is experiencing around 400 COVID deaths every day. At that rate, there would be nearly 150,000 deaths a year. But are these Americans dying from COVID or with COVID?"

    The doctor claimed that "Understanding this distinction is crucial to putting the continuing toll of the coronavirus into perspective. Determining how likely it is an infection will result in hospitalization or death helps people weigh their own risk."

    Mentioning the first, she wrote, "Robin Dretler, an attending physician at Emory Decatur Hospital and the former president of Georgia’s chapter of Infectious Diseases Society of America, estimates that at his hospital, 90 percent of patients diagnosed with COVID are actually in the hospital for some other illness."

    Wen also cited infectious-disease physician Shira Doron, who figured out that "In recent months, only about 30 percent of total hospitalizations with COVID were primarily attributed to the virus" in Massachusetts hospitals for example.
     
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  8. BigCypressGator1981

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    Maybe one day you’ll get over it. Probably not but who knows? I’m pulling for you to get over your long covid butthurt.
     
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  9. QGator2414

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    I have been long over covid. But holding those accountable for the harm they have caused is something we should not get over.
     
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  10. studegator

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    The very reason open and honest discussion needs to take place on "where did it originate",
    "what would we do different in responding"
    now that we can look back and have real evidence on what covid has done over the last 2+ years and our response or lack therof---
    Keep the politics out so real answers can be focused on.
     
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  11. duggers_dad

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    Focus on the where and the what. Where did it originate ? Wuhan. What originated in Wuhan ? Panic. Summary: panic originated in Wuhan and spread to the rest of the world.
     
  12. duggers_dad

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    They were advertised as “safe and effective.”

    Did they mean “sudden and unexpectedly” ?
     
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  13. Gator515151

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  14. Gatorrick22

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    Do you understand that even if the job goes away that more people will still be dying off because of the jab?

    The damage is done.
     
  15. duggers_dad

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    They can’t bear to acknowledge the horrific toll of the panic they completely bought into.
     
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  16. dangolegators

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    Yeah we need to hold anti-vaxxers accountable for all the damage they have done with their misinformation and lies.
     
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  17. duggers_dad

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    Tide turning against the Covidians.
     
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  18. QGator2414

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    LOL!

    This is the definition of how powerful propaganda can be. The real unfortunate thing is now it is the over 65 age group who was tricked into taking a bivalent booster and they had to become the test group for the safety signal that the 8 mice missed…
     
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  19. dangolegators

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    You think it was only tested on 8 mice? That's just idiotic, even for you.

    COVID-19 Vaccination
    • A large study of updated (bivalent) vaccines (from Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna) using the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services database revealed no increased risk of ischemic stroke
    • A preliminary study using the Veterans Affairs database did not indicate an increased risk of ischemic stroke following an updated (bivalent) vaccine
    • The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) managed by CDC and FDA has not seen an increase in reporting of ischemic strokes following the updated (bivalent) vaccine
    • Pfizer-BioNTech’s global safety database has not indicated a signal for ischemic stroke with the updated (bivalent) vaccine
    • Other countries have not observed an increased risk for ischemic stroke with updated (bivalent) vaccines
     
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  20. BigCypressGator1981

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    lol Rick. Bless your heart