Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Possible. But he has been far more right about this whole thing…

 

There is absolutely no way to model any outcome based on the ridiculous way we rolled out the shots and our overall public health policy. Along with the fact we paid no real attention to seroprevalence and natural immunity.

At the same time we provided immunity to big pharma.

Our leadership made sure there was no way to actually study this thing in a meaningful way. Brilliant authoritarian move by the way. But you keep taking a shot you don’t don’t need if you choose.

Going to be a long time trying to earn back the trust in public health after this disastrous performance.

 

What about the way we rolled out the shots would prevent us from building a statistical model about the effects of the shots?

 

Some people live in the real world, and some live in fantasyland. Science has proven time and again that your world is dangerous.

In the face of the evidence that the vaccines prevented severe death and hospitalizations, I repeatedly asked you: how many people would have died if not for the vaccines and mitigation.

And you can't answer.

All you can do is mock a model and not explain in any scientific way what is wrong with it.

And repeat the same tired garbage.

And support the anti-science governor and his fool surgeon general who are convening a grand jury for, what they say, is an investigation of vaccine abuse. Convening a grand jury for their anti-scientific foolishness supported by their base of fools.

If they had any true courage, they would sue the vaccine managers and allege their preconceived lies, but then, they would be up against Daubert because the proceeding would be adversarial.

This thread was ruined by disinformation. It is past time to lock it.

 

Wrong about literally everything. Per usual.

 

This thread should be renamed "The Q and Dreamliner Attention Seeking Thread." Unfortunately, all too many have acquiesced.

 

We pushed this in to risk groups that did not need it. We now have now way to study this well considering the shots did not work as advertised. At this point what is good protection? 4 shots and bivalent booster? Covid positive alpha? Boosted and Covid positive omicron version? Covid positive delta and two shots? Two shots Covid positive omicron version? Covid positive delta no shots? All shots Covid positive omicron version?

We know natural immunity was superior against delta. We know omicron did not care what immunity you had. We don’t know if putting your body to work over and over is good in the long term.

You want to shoot up with these shots. Go for it. There really is no compelling reason at this point based on seroprevalence.

Funny thing tonight. At a Christmas Party and two doctors both more than 10 years older than me easy took two different approaches. One has had four shots. Said he will not take another one as the last two knocked him out (I am surprised he took a fourth). The The other is right where he was last year. In his words…the only thing I am taking for this is the Johnson and Johnson powder (yes baby powder) lol. He got Covid and worst thing was loss of taste and smell.

All of us are going to get Covid shot or no shot (basically). If you are high risk and have not decided to take the shot and yet to get Covid…you should be infuriated by the way this has been handled. We put all our money (the vast majority) on the idea that these shots were the silver bullet. We should have been focused on protection and forward thinking. Instead here we are with a bivalent booster they won’t let you take unless you take the two archaic shots first. Behind on therapeutics like paxlovid (should have far better studies for younger people on this drug). This whole thing is a disaster. Especially considering the disease is not that dangerous to most people.

But we certainly have people still living in fear. And that should infuriate you!

 

A model is not science. A model is a guess based on parameters designed by the makers.

No doubt sometimes models can be used in positive ways. But a liberal think tank making a model about a disease that has been politicized since day one and considering most liberal policies failed…

A good one to laugh at.

 

About right when you can’t respond.

 

Boy that sure is a bunch of nonsense. Don't you ever get tired of writing this crap?

 

This thread is a monument to the pussification of America. Poor me, I had to live with the horror of a fear mongering media, masks & no in person school. If this is your big tribulation in life, you should be bursting with gratitude at your amazing good fortune, instead of incessantly whining like little bitches. Jesus. It is unfathomable snowflakery.

 

No you’re just wrong and keep repeating yourself. You’ve had it explained to you a million times and you just ignore it on your neverending quest to convince yourself that you aren’t a horrifically selfish person. On to your next diatribe about how you’re smart and the entire scientific community is wrong. And after you post it, I’ll tell you you’re wrong again.

 

“I think the most important thing with the data: If you are vaccinated, fully vaccinated, the chance of you getting seriously ill or dying from COVID is effectively zero,”

“If you look at the people who are being admitted to hospitals, over 95 percent of them are either not fully vaccinated or not vaccinated at all. These vaccines are saving lives. They are reducing mortality.”

- Ron “The Gold Standard” Desantis

 

Can’t address the study about saving lives? It’s good your opinions aren’t being tested in a science class. Major, epic, fail. Do is a favor though. You call science based recommendations propaganda and attacks the scientists with no foundation and then spam up the board with falsehoods. Such a waste of time to engage. It is a shame that this thread was ruined by page after page os conspiracy nonsense. It stopped being laughable when people believed it and died. But that is in those who spread it. Next time someone posts a study or mode, point out what os wrong with the methodology or just continue to make a fool of yourself with this type of nonsense. It is really your choice. And don’t think that the reinforcement by the other spreaders of disinformation here somehow validates your incompetence.

 

That is from a movie about space aliens. Has nothing to do with the model. From another proud spreader of falsehoods.

 

I put dreamweaver back on ignore. Not worth the bandwidth.

 

Am I understanding you correctly that you believe because the shots did not work as advertised, we cannot build a statistical model that accounts for how they did actually work?

 

Uh oh, you didn't use his legal name- Ronald, please.

 

The propaganda is strong…