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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. BigCypressGator1981

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  2. QGator2414

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    Virtue away if you feel the need. You know the purpose of masks. You know what science and medicine have shown and why they were not recommended.

    You have either fallen for the propaganda or are just an authoritarian and do not care about reality. I suspect the latter based on the way you post. But just my opinion.
     
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    And goggles...don't forget your goggles.
     
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  5. duggers_dad

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    Fauci ventured early on that you could get it through your eyes. YOUR EYES!
     
  6. mdgator05

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    Yeah, so much for respectful. As I stated, I merely brought up that you had made a false statement, about the fact that there was no RCT showing masking effectiveness. I never stated what I personally do in terms of masking behavior or even what I believe the correct policy is or was in prior periods. You are just trying to square the fact that you stated something false with how you view yourself. Again, deal with your cognitive dissonance on your own. Don't make it everybody else's problem when they point out that you said something false, even if you really would prefer what you said to be true.
     
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  7. duggers_dad

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    According to one of the anti-vaxxers (not naming him) who responded to my post, apparently it was justified in Canada since he considered the vax potentially life threatening.
     
  9. duggers_dad

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    “Sure, the vaccines may be killing people. And we’re going to force you to take them if you want to do business. But blocking traffic ? Jesus, man! Have you no decency ???”
     
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  10. VAg8r1

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    A little context would be helpful.
    Vaccine-Associated Myocarditis Risk in Context: Emerging Evidence - American College of Cardiology
    VAM is a rare but real side effect of mRNA vaccination against COVID-19. Large-scale observational studies on hundreds of millions of vaccine recipients across 3 continents have identified the highest risk of VAM in adolescent males, with rates as high as 107 cases per million in the teenage years. Across the general population, in comparison, COVID-associated myocarditis is likely greater than VAM, though VAM exceeds COVID-associated myocarditis for adolescent males. The clinical course of VAM is generally mild, with most symptoms resolving prior to hospital discharge. Even in the adolescent male population, the entirety of the protective effect of COVID vaccination, particularly in preventing severe COVID, hospitalization, MIS-C, and death, continues to clearly exceed the risk of VAM. Specific data are not yet available regarding the risk-benefit and timing considerations of a booster dose for adolescent males.17
     
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  11. Tjgators

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    Masks Don’t Work: A Review of Science Relevant to COVID-19 Social Policy

    This article sites lots of studies. If people want to wear masks, I'm good with them wearing a mask, but I'm not good with them wanting me to wear a mask.
     
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  12. QGator2414

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    Forcing people to engage in virtue is not respectful. And that is exactly the kind of actions you have supported.
     
  13. QGator2414

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    Agreed.

    We have known masks do not work for something like this. But propaganda is a powerful tool.

    Amazing how you a few authoritarians can tell people the mask is to protect others and then have people explain the purpose of a mask to you and believe them that with the flip of a switch we can stop Covid. Well Covid proved and showed who has been right about this disease. The pride of some just won’t let them accept the fact they were wrong. And not just on masks.
     
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  14. mdgator05

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    And you reveal yourself again here. Again, I didn't take a policy position today, I pointed out a false statement, which you might have felt was helpful to your cause (which raises its own questions), but that doesn't make it less false.
     
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  15. mdgator05

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    Yeah, let me know when you admit to being wrong about the lack of an RCT showing masking effectiveness for Covid 19. I won't be holding my breath. Despite you having been factually wrong.
     
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  16. QGator2414

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    They are similar but not the same thing.

    Virtue on my friend….
     
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    In the same way that alligators are not reptiles.
     
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  18. mdgator05

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    A CRT is a type of RCT. I already provided the definition. But pride has you trying to wiggle out of it. I get it. Vice on, my friend.
     
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    Na. I acknowledged it. But an RCT is the gold standard.

    Virtue away. There is a reason we don’t have any RCTs or for that matter multiple CRTs that show masking works.

    But we have plenty of evidence they are nothing more than virtue.

    Virtue away.
     
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  20. mdgator05

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    Again, a CRT is an RCT. By definition. It it a trial with a control in which group assignment is randomized. And that is why the definition says it is a type of an RCT. Which you won't acknowledge. So vice away.