Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

GatorJMDZ · Mar 26, 2020

jhenderson251 said: ↑

Apparently the WHO feels that China has actually been pretty forthcoming and reliable with reporting their info. They’re disinformation is largely to their own people. Not exactly a “Good Job!” accolade, but world health experts seem to think their reported numbers are reliable. They are at least within an acceptable range to other countries regarding percent of tests resulting in a positive, mortality, etc.
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Have you watched a Trump briefing?

tilly · Mar 26, 2020

duchen said: ↑

The flu doesn’t overrun the system like this because there is already herd immunity to flu. So severe cases are spread out over time. I don’t know how many people have had this, but I do not disagree that it has been here longer than we understand. As I have posted, I was sick in January with the prototypical symptoms and tested negative for flu. But, with this disease it is fast and rapid spread
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This. I never...I mean never get sick I was sick twice in Jan and Feb, bad cough...moderate fever....fatigue. never went to Dr though. Could have been anything, but to my knowledge I have never had the flu.

GatorJMDZ · Mar 26, 2020

tilly said: ↑

You wont like the link...but that is in a nutshell exactly what he said:
Cuomo: Not sure if closing all businesses, keeping everyone home was 'the best public health strategy'

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Thursday that his stay-at-home order for the entirety of New York State was “probably not the best public health strategy.”

In a press conference in Albany, Cuomo said the smartest way forward would be a public health strategy that complemented a “get-back-to-work strategy.”

“What we did was we closed everything down. That was our public health strategy. Just close everything, all businesses, old workers, young people, old people, short people, tall people,” said Cuomo. “Every school closed, everything.”

“If you rethought that or had time to analyze that public health strategy, I don't know that you would say quarantine everyone,” Cuomo admitted. “I don't even know that that was the best public health policy. Young people then quarantined with older people was probably not the best public health strategy because the younger people could have been exposing the older people to an infection. “
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No, the only aspect he is second guessing is quarantining the youngsters with the oldsters.

tilly · Mar 26, 2020

OklahomaGator said: ↑

Prisma Health develops a device that expands ventilator support to four patients at once

New Prisma Health device expands ventilator support to four patients

Prisma Health, the largest nonprofit health group in South Carolina, announced Wednesday that it's developed a device that will enable one ventilator to support up to four patients being treated for the novel coronavirus.

Why it matters: Ventilators are critical in helping patients in the most severe cases of COVID-19 to breathe. But they're in short supply as demand grows, with the number of coronavirus cases increasing as U.S. testing capacity expands. The virus had killed more than 1,000 people and infected 69,000 others in the U.S. by late Wednesday.

Details: The Food and Drug Administration gave emergency use authorization for the Prisma Health 3D-printed device, called the VESper, which the firm said in a statement was developed with "material already in use for medical devices and produced at minimal cost."

Great news, basically quadruples the number of ventilators in NYC.
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I mean...I love the non profit sector in this country! This country is amazing.
Exhibit A as to why we will be stronger than ever when the smoke clears.

VAg8r1 · Mar 26, 2020

gator_lawyer said: ↑

Okie dokie, I finally put our friend on ignore. Had enough of the Barnes tweets.
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You mean to say that a criminal tax lawyer with a Twitter account doesn't really have expertise in epidemiology, virology or public

duchen · Mar 26, 2020

oragator1 said: ↑

I have little doubt that it has spread farther than testing accounts for. But 50 Percent or even anything close makes zero sense, that would mean that it was everywhere, and should mean a relatively equal distribution of serious cases. What has happened in Wuhan, NY, Italy etc all but proves that false - when it takes hold in an area the serious cases skyrocket. I realize it is the UK he is addressing but you would think a similar scenario here would apply. If it were 50 percent then NY for example should have no more than double the serious cases of any most any other place (assuming a relatively random distribution) and they are hundreds of times worse than much of the country. And North Carolina testing for example is only coming back at a 5 percent positive clip. California is at 4 percent positive.
NY, the heart of the outbreak is at 30 percent or so. Even if you double or triple those numbers under the assumption that some have had it and now test negative that theory doesn’t make sense.

How many coronavirus cases have been found in each U.S. state

and in fact, Ferguson clarified his comments tonight:

“I think it would be helpful if I cleared up some confusion that has emerged in recent days. Some have interpreted my evidence to a UK parliamentary committee as indicating we have substantially revised our assessments of the potential mortality impact of COVID-19. This is not the case. Indeed, if anything, our latest estimates suggest that the virus is slightly more transmissible than we previously thought. Our lethality estimates remain unchanged. My evidence to Parliament referred to the deaths we assess might occur in the UK in the presence of the very intensive social distancing and other public health interventions now in place. Without those controls, our assessment remains that the UK would see the scale of deaths reported in our study (namely, up to approximately 500 thousand).”
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Read the entire New Sciecne and Daily Wire articles in context to understand what he said in context. As a result of the more easy transmission, they have concluded that there are more cases that are asymptotic or and it has been around longer. The revised numbers I posted are his new numbers. The reason for the high number of exponential growth in cases is the absence of immunity and the ease of spread.

tilly · Mar 26, 2020

RIP said: ↑

Let's set the over/under at 400. I'll take the over.
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Ha. Amateur hour. The Thread scoffs in your general direction.

GatorJMDZ · Mar 26, 2020

gator_fever said: ↑

Bill Gates on coronavirus: We need an 'extreme shutdown' of 6 to 10 weeks

I swear these elites don't live on the same planet sometimes as regular people with their crazy statements.
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It's like some people live in an alternate reality with their crazy statements.

96Gatorcise · Mar 26, 2020

tilly said: ↑

This. I never...I mean never get sick I was sick twice in Jan and Feb, bad cough...moderate fever....fatigue. never went to Dr though. Could have been anything, but to my knowledge I have never had the flu.
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I had influenza A last year, it sucked. I was down for 10 days.

duchen · Mar 26, 2020

tilly said: ↑

This. I never...I mean never get sick I was sick twice in Jan and Feb, bad cough...moderate fever....fatigue. never went to Dr though. Could have been anything, but to my knowledge I have never had the flu.
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Same with me. We discussed at Friday night dinner that weekend that I never take a flu shot because I don’t get the flu. Because when I was younger, I had every flu you can get. Basically, immune. By Monday I was in bed with fever thinking I had it and blaming myself for not saying Thank G-d when I said it. And it wasn’t the flu. I am going to PM you something.

GatorNorth · Mar 26, 2020

Going to end my GC day on this one. Apparently this is done every night in midtown Atlanta to pay homage to the medical workers changing shifts. Sometimes the good in life is beautiful. Peace out fellow Gators

96Gatorcise · Mar 26, 2020

Coronavirus Update (Live): 531,799 Cases and 24,071 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer

United States Coronavirus: 85,377 Cases and 1,295 Deaths - Worldometer

gator_lawyer · Mar 26, 2020

tilly said: ↑

This. I never...I mean never get sick I was sick twice in Jan and Feb, bad cough...moderate fever....fatigue. never went to Dr though. Could have been anything, but to my knowledge I have never had the flu.
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I have no idea if I've ever had the flu. Might help to know lol.

GatorJMDZ · Mar 26, 2020

gator_fever said: ↑

Social distancing on NYC subway system
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There's always going to be idiots who don't believe in it or refuse to do it. They should get arrested.

gatordavisl · Mar 26, 2020

HallGator said: ↑

It's looking like the United States will surpass Italy and China in the next day or two to become the nation with the most confirmed cases. Possibly by tonight sometime at the rate it's been climbing.

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. . . or by 9pm. The U.S. has surged to the top, with 17k new cases. Hopefully that is due to increased testing.

Coronavirus Update (Live): 531,799 Cases and 24,071 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer

tilly · Mar 26, 2020

GatorJMDZ said: ↑

No, the only aspect he is second guessing is quarantining the youngsters with the oldsters.
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Respectfully, This is not true man. He clearly speaks about the economics of doing it over again differently. Listen I think Cuomo is in a terrible spot. I have tried to stay non partisan through this. He has done a good job under pressure. He also is clearly saying if given more time to weigh it all he would probably react differently

duchen · Mar 26, 2020

tilly said: ↑

Respectfully, This is not true man. He clearly speaks about the economics of doing it over again differently. Listen I think Cuomo is in a terrible spot. I have tried to stay non partisan through this. He has done a good job under pressure. He also is clearly saying if given more time to weigh it all he would probably react differently
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Originally he did not want to quarantine because New Yorkers are mobile and will get around it. Which is happening. Then he was left with no choice.

OklahomaGator · Mar 26, 2020

I have been impressed by Cuomo throughout this crisis.

gator_fever · Mar 26, 2020

Trump was just talking about when he insisted on Chinese citizens travel ban due to virus that the Chinese then went to Europe to visit Italy and Spain instead spreadiing the virus worse there.

gator_lawyer · Mar 26, 2020

Can somebody lock him in a closet until the crisis has passed?

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