Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Other than just laziness or forgetfulness, which we are guilty of, what is the reason not to get a flu or a Covid shot for a kid?

 

Because there isn’t data that says the vaccine does anything to help children, especially babies. Long covid doesn’t exist and covid wasn’t the reason pediatric hospitals were filling up. There is a reason somewhere around 50-60% of childrens hospitalizations of covid were “with covid”, not from covid. Besides that, great take.

 

Increased risk of myocarditis in boys for sure. No idea of long term affects. There is a reason only about 3% of babies are vaxxed even though it’s been available for the 6month to 5 year olds for a month.

 

Idiot response from wackos

 

Think about it. I provided statistical data compiled by the CDC in three graphs to support my position. You provided NOTHING.

All you got is antivax BS you got off the internet. So, who's the wacko?

 

i woudn't give a young kid a covid shot reasons would be the current shots don't protect from getting covid. most kids don't have major symptoms from covid, and the latest version of covid is mild to begin with.

 

What's the reason to do so if they're out of the high risk flu ages, or for COVID at all?

 

I've provided plenty of factual information over the last year or so, you and others refuse to look or listen to the facts, but bought into the bullshit, no hope for you or your liked minded sheep

 

Yeah, you got me. I believe scientific research and data over made up internet BS and will continue to do so.

 

You got your kids flu shots? I bet in my circle it is less than 40% that do.

I think the real life numbers are about 50/50 iirc

 

In the past if they have it at pediatrician appointment I would but wouldn’t always get them if I had to make a special trip. Now I would be more likely to, because I didn’t fully understand how vaccines work in the past.

What I am asking you is what you think you are protecting your kids from avoiding the vaccine? It’s true, odds are they will be no worse for wear, but if you can reduce the unlikely odds of hospitalization or long Covid not sure why you wouldn’t.

 

To me, the question is: "Have I done everything reasonable to ensure the health, safety and well being of my loved ones?" Considering how safe the vaccines are and how effective they are for reducing serious illness and death, to me, the answer would be "No" if I had not vaccinated my kids.

 

Because the risk is almost zero.
Same reason I font make him where elbow pads. You cant do everything. You cant even do every little thing. My kids have their major vaccines.

I have never had a flu shot and frankly dont think I've ever had the flu.

My 3 kids have never had the flu and are rarely sick.

They had covid and barely a sniffle.

Unknowns exist. There is a reason most people arent getting their young kids vaxed.

We are much more concerned about nutrition and diet and overall health at our house.

It cracks me up how we live in a world of people who grab happy meals for their kids on the way to the doctor.

 

There have been about 10,000 cumulative Covid hospitalizations less than 18 years old.

COVID-19 Hospitalizations

Plus there is long Covid, and then the higher likelihood of infection, and the higher likelihood of them having to quarantine and miss school or sports events.

I understand that the risk is low on a relative basis, but why would you not take the opportunity to lower it more? It seems like you think you are somehow protecting your kids and making them safer by not getting these vaccines.

 

many of the kids already recovered from the virus and have resistance. most of the stats getting presented are based upon old iterations of the virus and not omicron and its sub variants.

 

Go to the link I presented and isolate those under 18 and you will see that is not the case.

COVID-19 Hospitalizations

 

data from march 2020 has little relevance now. i have many friends, cousins, nephews all who have kids and grand kids. most of these kids have gotten covid ( most this year) and recovered . common sense will tell you a recovery from a bout of covid in its recent form will give you as much if not more resistance than a vaccine based upon the alpha spike.
as a senior, im glad i was vaccinated at that time. i didnt get the 4rh booster because its basically useless against omicron compared to just 3 shots. since i just got over a covid infection, i will wait a while until an updated shot comes out. imo, no reason to vaccinated a young child who already recovered from covid

 

You clearly aren’t looking at the data.

 

I'm reading your data. There is very little data on reinfection. Your data doesn't differentiate between children who recovered from covid and where re-infected/hospitalized and hospitalizations among 1st time covid patients. In fact most data doesn't give any attention to immunity from prior infection. Israel's green pass program, when it was active gave equal value to covid recovery / vaccination ( Israel IMO was ahead of most countries on how they studied covid)
Here is an article published in June, however once again im not sure how relevant old data is, but it does give some clarity to prior infection immunity. I think if you re-read my prior post and also this article it would be helpful.

Risk of SARS-CoV-2 reinfections in children: a prospective national surveillance study between January, 2020, and July, 2021, in England - ScienceDirect

 

I think long term covid is an almost zero thing. I have no idea what the long term for a vaccine is.

My younger two (unvaxed) kids had it. They were totally fine.
My oldest (vaccinated) has avoided it.

I am content with our decision.