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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. buckeyegator

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    fwiw, 7 day death average yesterday lowest in over 2 years
     
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  2. coleg

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    Just to be clear... could you go over the choices again? LOL
     
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  3. mdgator05

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    Which has the lower age-adjusted death rate, Florida or California?

    Also, do older people not come into contact with younger people? What is the correlation between community infection rates and elderly infection rates?
     
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  4. gator95

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    They are extremly close, but CA by a slim margin, but CA has a larger excess death rate overall than FL

    Schools were shown in Europe in mid 2020 to not be transmitters of covid anymore than anywhere else in the community. You know that though.
     
  5. mdgator05

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    Technically, it is California by a rate that, if Florida matched it, would result in about 5K less deaths in Florida. But yes, it is California. And I don't think that is accurate on excess deaths. According to the CDC, Florida was lower in 2020 (117% vs. 119% of predicted deaths), but higher in 2021 (127% vs. 124%). They are equal at 39% in 2022.

    Sure. Which leads to the point that states who wanted to open schools could and probably should compensate by lowering community spread in other ways, not simply ignoring the spread that happened in schools because it wouldn't affect older people.
     
  6. gator95

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    Or keeping kids remote and having them fall woefully behind because the teachers unions made a money grab. See the Harvard study.

    ‘Not Good for Learning’

    Excess Deaths (Ranking) - US Mortality Monitoring


    Remote learning likely widened racial, economic achievement gap

    “Interestingly, gaps in math achievement by race and school poverty did not widen in school districts in states such as Texas and Florida and elsewhere that remained largely in-person. Where schools remained in-person, gaps did not widen. Where schools shifted to remote learning, gaps widened sharply. Shifting to remote instruction was like turning a switch on a critical piece of our social infrastructure that we had taken for granted.”
     
  7. QGator2414

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    It is pretty much 1:1 when looking at the numbers as it has played out now.

    And it depends on things like location etc as this virus has been seasonal to a point based on where one lives. So different variants have affected different regions at different levels. At the end of the day this virus is dangerous to the elderly and those with comorbidities. Now the propaganda machine has scared a bunch of young healthy people. But there are new drugs to take if one chooses based on their risk profile and risk tolerance.
     
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  8. mdgator05

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    Not according to the Canadian data over the last 60 days in Ontario or over the last 120 days in Alberta. It is almost 82:1 in Ontario. Where are you seeing 1:1?
     
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  9. gatordavisl

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  10. coleg

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    Seems like 82:1 is so close to 1:1 that maybe you're just nitpicking at this point. SMH
     
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  11. QGator2414

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    COVID-19 Alberta statistics
     
  12. philnotfil

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    Tables 3 (hospitalizations), 5 (ICU), and 8 (deaths) really do make it clear that the rates are way higher for the unvaccinated. It breaks out various age groups, you can also scroll to the bottom of each table to get the 5+ years age group showing everyone. Thanks for the link.
     
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  13. duggers_dad

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    Number hospitalized or killed, by a virus, since March 2020: 0.
     
  14. mdgator05

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    Death rates per 100k:

    80+ unvaccinated: 1326.63
    80+ 2 doses: 489.36
    80+ 3 doses (booster): 273.05

    70-79 unvaccinated: 973.44
    70-79 2 doses: 174.81
    70-79 3 doses: 38.47

    60-69 unvaccinated: 175.29
    60-69 2 doses: 49.74
    60-69 3 doses: 13.44

    That means that over the last 120 days, death rates for unvaccinated vs. boosted are 5:1, 25:1, and 13:1.

    How are any of those "pretty much 1:1?"
     
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  15. philnotfil

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    If you round to the nearest 1?
     
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    Bill Gates tests positive for COVID, then makes vaccine announcement (wnd.com)

    Billionaire Bill Gates announced Tuesday that he has been infected by the coronavirus, but said there's nothing to worry about due to the vaccine he champions.

    "I've tested positive for COVID. I'm experiencing mild symptoms and am following the experts' advice by isolating until I'm healthy again," Gates wrote in a Twitter post.

    He should have gotten a 5th booster, maybe then it would actually work
     
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  18. QGator2414

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    No way it is the reality he is infected with a less severe variant. Or that even if it was the original he would be fine like my parents who each got Covid late July/early August 2020. They are doing just fine unvaccinated and living life to its fullest. Seeing their grandkids and refusing to let these propagandists make their life miserable. :cool::eek:o_O:confused::D:devil::ninja3:
     
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  19. citygator

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    It’s really ramping up at work moving through the office. I’ve avoided it. No one seems too sick from it though. Seems like a wimpy variant.
     
  20. buckeyegator

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    but,but everyone is double and triple vaxed with the great vaccines, how can they be getting it. oh yeah, the vaccines are not what we were told they were.