Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

9.9 for the 2nd round

 

For those following along at home, Table 7 shows deaths by vaccination status by age group

Age 10-39, 735 unvaccinated deaths involving covid, 148 vaccinated (any level of vaccination) deaths.
Age 40-49, 1376 unvaccinated, 349 vaccinated.
Age 50-59, 3623 unvaccinated, 1091 vaccinated.
Age 60-69, 6773 unvaccinated, 2685 vaccinated.
Age 70-79, 10742 unvaccinated, 6382 vaccinated.
Age 80-89, 13946 unvaccinated, 11771 vaccinated.
Age 90+, 8030 unvaccinated, 7300 vaccinated.

Table 7 just lumps everyone in together over the entire year, even though the vaccine wasn't as available at the beginning of the year. Table 1 has the monthly data. Filter column A for Deaths involving covid, column D for Unvaccinated and Ever vaccinated, and then compare the results in column G to see how effective vaccinations were in England.

 

Do you REALLY believe DeSantis wasn't being vindictive against Disney for opposing his legislation???

 

Sorry went quick through tables and thought 7 was it. Looks like it is Table 2…

Also it looks like there have been some corrections by Public Health England. I just added unvaccinated deaths for January 2021 and I have it as 24411. Now it is slightly lower at 24371 and the fully vaccinated appears to be slightly higher than the 11 when I added them up last time.

 

I wasnt wanting you to remain silent per se, but just think about how you are crafting it. Saying you are against mandates and masks in schools etc is one thing. I agree with you on those btw...It comes across at times like you think the vaccines are harmful when they are overwhelmingly helpful.

Agree to disagree on this point brother.
I certainly wasnt meaning to silence you.

 

Not sure which poster or case of misrepresentation you are referring to. If you're referring to @mutz87, then I certainly have no issue. Misrepresentation, btw, is a Q specialty.

 

Where is the outrage over the Super spreader event?

'Fully Vaccinated, Boosted' WH Correspondents' Dinner Sees COVID Outbreak

 

What are we supposed to be outraged about?

 

When was the last time someone was outraged about a super spreader event? Or perhaps a better Q is why should people be outraged about this particular event? I may have missed the recent outrage, but it seems like people have been congregating, including indoors, for quite a while now. I mean we made it through basketball season and a school year, all in-person. There hasn't been any outrage about hoops or school for quite a while.

 

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What’s the narrative?

 

The primary difference is measles incubates 10-14 days well after T cells and memory cells have time to kick in. The omicron 2 variant kicks in 2-4 days. So once the initial antibody response from the vaccine or natural immunity wanes, you are vulnerable to infection, although the delayed T cell and memory cells reactions to help to reduce chances of severe disease.

With a 2-4 days incubation it is probably impossible to have long term herd immunity against infection. But the vaccines definitely help prevent worst case scenarios.

 

If this were on the right, there's a good chance a majority of attendees wouldn't have been vaccinated (defiantly and/or confused), and that some of them wouldn't survive.Think Herman Cain.

That's the difference imo, not simply l/r.

 

And Fauci chose to skip the event...

 

Well and the difference with Herman Cain and the trump rallies is they they all took place when 1) there were no vaccines and 2) when this disease was far deadlier.

Conservatives are having the damndest time wrapping their heads around the fact that this disease CHANGES and as it does so does our response to it.

The media responded to the trump rallies the way they did because that behavior was far more brazen and careless.

 

See post 36152

 

But went to the cocktail party beforehand lol.

 

Point missed.

Well actually I think you know the point but want to try and deflect from it.

 

Sorry you are outraged? But Why would you be outraged over the event? All Vaccinated people at the event. There was a Low risk of serious disease or illness. We haven’t had shutdowns for a long time now. Restrictions are lifted everywhere. Even mask mandates.