Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Did Herman Cain advocate taking a shot, tell everyone how it will protect them, shut himself in and demand others do the same, criticize anyone who wouldn’t get the shot, then catch covid and die?

 

^^^This^^^

The propaganda is strong. Part of it now is self pride and an unwillingness to admit one is wrong.

But to even say that these drugs had a chance to stop this virus is ridiculous. Should the high risk early on have taken them? Absolutely I think so.

The Great Barrington Declaration gets proven more and more right every day…

 

Oddly hypocritical the self-fulfilling aspect of anti-vax cultists claiming that a vaccine did not produce as hoped. SMH. Please, for once, show the data that shows high risk groups with the outcomes vaxed vs not.
Please do continue the pathetic wail of the sadly selfish, almost being cooerced into... gasp helping someone else. The horror. Funny to see the poster scrambling to posit the evil of vax mandates so , so selectively in the face of decades of vax success. Spin and spin some more. Total joke.

 

I have. To say that people who are at little risk to this disease should be coerced to take a drug that does not stop them from getting the disease or spreading the disease is just nonsensical and damaging to public health. It really is unfortunate the amount of damage that has been caused by this.

 

So no evidence of your claim that vaxed/unvaxed outcomes were the same. Just as everyone would have guessed. The damage is the million that died that would have been considerably less without the political cultists fighting science with antivax tripe. 8 mandated vaccines in all 50 states and a ninth would have saved many lives. The damage to public health was for politics alone. Pathetic.

 

again you fail to mention many more died under biden;s watch, what did he do to get people to get vaxed, nothing but mouth running. people will do what they want no matter what you think they should do, should they haveb been roundedup and forcefully against their will vaxed?

 

You really do not understand do you. I thought you were simply being obstanant, but I realize from your constant mischaracterization of both modern and long released vaccines, that you truly do not understand any of this.

I realized when you chose not to respond to all of the questions about polio and the polio vaccine (which basically works EXACTLY like the mRNA Covid-19 vaccines are working) that you did not understand and thus further discussion was of no value.

 

He doesn’t understand how polio spreads.

 

. Waste of time

 

Booster up!

That alpha variant might come back…

 

LOL…

trying to compare a drug that actually has helped create herd immunity to these new drugs.

Drugs for different diseases. With different risk profiles.

It really is unfortunate the damage being done.

 

Saw that you posted again and was thinking you would provide some evidence of your silly claim.
Seems you went with your usual middle school level response. Sigh

 

I see you are completely ignoring the Canadian numbers. Not surprised. Over 90% of people 40 and older vaccinated, and over 60% of the deaths coming from the unvaccinated. Care to explain?

I can. Fits all other evidence that being fully vaccinated is the best defense against severe COVID. Natural immunity works too, but if unvaccinated, catch COVID and the risks of a severe case is higher than if vaccinated.

The erosion of public trust falls on your shoulders, and others who ignore the evidence of vaccine efficacy. Could have saved thousands of lives, and kept thousands more out of the hospital had we higher vaccination rates. Again, look at the Canadian data.

 

It has been explained to him countless times. He either ignores it, just discounts it, or doesn’t understand it. I have no desire to engage with somebody who is unwilling to even acknowledge an argument, if not at least to refute it with some sort of evidence or logic. But you don’t get that. You just keep getting the same repetitive mischaracterizations and gobbledygook

 

When was the last time there was polio case in the US?

 

He should have used the pandemic as an excuse to shut down and cut off all right wing media for their dangerous history of spouting anti-vax nonsense.

 

Cain really owned those libs!

 

You also might add: when was the last US case of smallpox? Thanks again for making the case of adding a 9th mandatory vaccine to the current 8 that are mandated in all 50 states. Positively works... see Polio and Smallpox. Had the covid vaccine been mandatory from the start, thousands would have survived.

 

No, he went to a Trump Rally during the peak of the pandemic, either caught it there, or spread it to who knows how many people at a massive super spreader event BEFORE vaccines were available. Causing his own death and likely others.

Unlike the Dems you are blasting, who were careful during the worst part of the the pandemic, but have now moved on as has the rest of the world because we do have vaccine that is highly effective at preventing serious illness and death.

You are comparing apples to road apples here.

 

LOL!

These new drugs are making the case for why we should have never coerced anyone to take them. Now we have likely created vaccine hesitancy for drugs that should not command such hesitancy. But you keep thinking we should have coerced people to take a drug for a disease that is not that dangerous to them and does not stop them from getting and spreading said disease.