Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

There are multiple vaccines that call for more multiple jabs. And that actually works to create an effective vaccine. Unlike these new drugs.

The damage being done to effective vaccines by some dying on the sword for new drugs that are ineffective and for a disease that is not that dangerous to most is one of the generational disasters of our public health decisions through this.

The propaganda has done so much damage that people just refuse to acknowledge. Forcing an ineffective drug on people for a disease that is not that dangerous to most.

 

MMWR is "reviewed" by the CDC staff? LOL. Go look at some of the MMWR's out of the CDC over the past 2 years. You know, like trying to say masks work and cherry picking specific dates to make their "science" work. Anyone thinking an MMWR is anymore than an advertisement is either ignorant or as an agenda.

 

Strike one.

 

The polio vaccine takes four doses to be fully effective. In covid terms, that would be the two regular doses plus two boosters.

Interestingly enough, after only two doses of the polio vaccine, its effectiveness is about the same as the covid vaccine after two doses.

Yet one gets trumpeted as a great success and how vaccines should work and the other gets attacked for being ineffective. Weird. Its almost like the conclusion was formed before looking at the facts.

 

Laugh all you want. You only expose your own ignorance. Every data point available shows that vaccinated individuals fare better when infected with COVID when you adjust for age. I've posted the Washington State numbers multiple times that show unvaccinated are 5X to 9X more likely to end up in the hospital or die. But lets look at some data just to the north of Washington.

Here are Canada's numbers. First, let's look at vaccination status, by age. Scroll down about halfway through the page and you'll see vaccination rates 12 to 17 at 85.33%, and as the age goes up, so does vaccination rates. In fact, 40 and older are at minimum, 88.78% vaccinated, with 60 and older all over 90% vaccinated rates. So what does that mean for COVID deaths in Canada, eh?

Well, with such a high vaccination rate, especially among the adult population, we'd expect to see a low death rate. And if the vaccination works at preventing death, we'd also expect to see a disproportionate number of deaths among the unvaccinated. And what do we see when we look at Canadian COVID deaths from Dec 14, 2021 through March 13, 2022? Exactly that.

Less than 15,000 COVID deaths during this period. With a population of 38.01 million, over this 3 month period, that translates to 1 death for every .0004 person. In comparison, in January, 2022 alone, the US had 60,000 deaths, which is 1 death for every .0002 person. Which is half the rate, but in only 1/3 the time.

We also see from the Canadian data that 62.2%, or 9,313 deaths are from the unvaccinated. Look at this again. Assuming limited or no pediatric deaths from COVID, 62.2% of the COVID deaths are coming from the ~10% of the population which is unvaccinated! More proof the vaccine is your best bet at ensuring a COVID infection will be minor and you'll be able to survive it.

Case counts aren't a good metric at this point. Especially when there are so many testing at home and not reporting. And if a person gets COVID, but is vaccinated, and gets better in a few days, that isn't a big deal. Hospitalizations and deaths are the metrics we need to look at now. And all data shows that while vaccination can't prevent all, the vaccine does a very good job at preventing COVID hospitalizations and deaths.

 

LOL!

Yes. Strike one. You tried to compare the Covid drugs to the polio vaccine!

 

How many polio vaccines have you taken since being a child? Hence it is actually effective.

 

Are people still talking about covid? Even if it comes back no one except for the basement dwellers will stand for mandates and lockdowns.

 

Thanks for making the perfect case to a National mandate for Covid. Since there are 8 vaccines that are mandated in all 50 states, you see how effective it is. Hence we don't use polio boosters. In other areas of the world, where there is not the near total vax rate for polio, there are... polio boosters. Again , glad you admit the best way to proceed.

 

LOL!

No. Mandating a new drug that is not effective for a disease that is not dangerous to most is only a case made by those that have lost all common sense from the public health propaganda.

But carry on. LOL!

I really appreciate the laugh...

 

A million dead Americans isn't enough for some.

 

This is why America is in such bad shape. So many people who understand nothing spewing like they possess some kind of expertise.

Thanks for humoring me and helping to make my point.

 

No problem.

You keep comparing an effective drug with decades of research to a new drug that has failed to be effective with no long term data.

Drugs for two different diseases. Two completely different risk profiles and risk gradients for high risk groups.

I do appreciate the humor…

Unfortunately it is not humorous the damage done by those who continue to push these new drugs on people who do not want or need them.

 

No problem.

You keep comparing an effective drug with decades of research to a new drug that has failed to be effective with no long term data.

Drugs for two different diseases. Two completely different risk profiles and risk gradients for high risk groups.

I do appreciate the humor…

Unfortunately it is not humorous the damage done by those who continue to push these new drugs on people who do not want or need them.

 

Ron DeSantis bashes 'hypocrites' in Washington who have gotten COVID calling hypocrites as they are, no way they can get around it, do as i say, not as i do, party on maskless....

 

Did Dictator Ron call Herman Cain a hypocrite?

 

Seems that poster cannot discern that a rapidly mutating covid virus that claimed hundreds of thousands of American lives in a year, likely should have been fully mandated, vs a fully mandated polio that never killed more than 4K Americans in a year. But... freedum.

 

don't know, will ask when i see him again, maybe he told pelosi.

 

I can fully discern that these drugs failed once delta arrived. There was no stopping it. Delta was already circulating when the new drugs got their EUA. I can fully discern that natural immunity was effective against delta unlike the new drugs. I can discern that the same high risk groups are the ones who deal with bad outcomes vaccinated or unvaccinated.

Worst…I can discern the incredible generational damage done by the people who coerced others to take a drug they did not want or need.

It really is unfortunate to see propaganda work like it has where some actually still think mandating these drugs was the right thing.