Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Trump's profound ignorance, which you spread like a worshiper, is dangerous.

New York City implemented social distancing-- and it is working.

Same as in New Rochelle.

New York coronavirus: Gov. Cuomo says social distancing efforts are working - CNN


Social distancing efforts to stop the spread of coronavirus in New York, the epicenter of the American outbreak, are showing signs of working, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said on Wednesday.

Estimates from Sunday showed coronavirus hospitalizations were doubling every 2 days, he said. But Monday's estimates showed hospitalizations were doubling every 3.4 days, and Tuesday's estimates showed hospitalizations were doubling every 4.7 days.

"That is almost too good to be true. But the theory is given the density that we're dealing with, it spreads very quickly, but if you reduce the density you can reduce the spread very quickly," he said.

 

The US right now and Iran compared to those Western European countries. Zero evidence in real world so far that non-work lockdowns help that much once something already has a foothold in the country. Anecdotal says they don't so far. Korea caught very early but its actually building some real numbers dead cat bouncing even with that stuff. Quite a few experts have already said they wont work once the stuff has a foothold and can even make it worse sometimes closing in young people with old people with these.

 

You just continue to repeat the same false facts about H1N1 no matter how many times people show you the statistics. At some point, the argument elevates from simply false, to deceitful.

 

Another falsehood.

 

At least he stopped saying dead cat bounce.

 

Hospitals are being overrun in Atlanta, New york and elsewhere. Do you think it a good idea to increase the load?

This is not hard. Once the hospitals are overloaded, more people who need criitcal care will die. Because it will not be there.

The disease is performing here like it did all over the world.

The option of waiting to see what happens-- because then we will know for sure-- does not work with what we have seen already.

One must rely on epidemiology.

 

You want to compare the ones that chose not to do draconian lockdowns to the ones that did in the US? Those Governors suckered their citizens to try and help stop Trump. I have a feeling if they dont change after they see people in the Rep ones getting back closer to normal the people might start getting pretty mad they have been had.

 

"There really, fundamentally at the core ... there are not differences. "The president has listened to what I have said and ... what the other people on the task force have said, When I made recommendations, he's taken them. He's never countered or overridden me. The idea of just pitting one against the other is just not helpful, I wish that would stop and we'd look ahead at the challenge we have to pull together to get over this thing."

 

There was actually a pretty in-depth and heated debate over the use of closed case death rate here:
Coronavirus Stats - setting the record straight | Page 16 | Swamp Gas Forums

 

He had to. Typing it actually summoned a dead cat that constantly bounced around his Farady caged bunker.

 

I have 100% at every turn said I support what we are doing.
I have become a huge fan of Fauci (and Birx more recently).

This does not mean we wont find the forecast numbers were greatly overstated in the reality of history.

 

He is resistance imo. We are already getting the behind the scenes articles about it from the lefty media - of course saying Trump wants to put us in danger. He knows he wont get Trump to change now. Its probably 50/50 whether he lets them talk him into the resigning and saying to reporters the country is in danger. With what the numbers will say he may not want to make that big of fool of himself however.

 

Why do cats get all the glory? Don't they have a dead dog bounce? Or a dead armadillo bounce? How about a dead T-Rex bounce?

 

Looks like we are going to have a lower number for DD today tomorrow morning but its not a good comparison because NY didnt drop any night numbers today so tomorrow will be pretty big with that affect. My guess is today would have been about the same or just a little more if it included NY's night numbers.

 

dang, later I might partake of some wacky tobacky & watch this. While listening to Brass in Pocket by the pretenders.....

Gonna use my arms
Gonna use my legs
Gonna use my style
Gonna use my sidestep
Gonna use my fingers
Gonna use my, my, my imagination

I never understood that lyric, but damn even an Armadillo makes that little dainty sidestep sexy





edit. I thought Scarjo made it look kinda sexy too in Lost in Translation.

 

Kentucky jumped on the draconian lockdown bandwagon a week before Tennessee.

 

I think the cruise ship is a good model (As was pointed out on page 16.) I believe the fact that everyone was tested in a controlled space helps. It may even be lower as it was difficult to social distance on a cruise ship.

 

This is the kind of information we need to be talking about. That is a pretty significant trend reduction of hospitalization admissions. This will not sit well with the world-is-coming-to-an-end crowd. I think we will be pleasantly surprised by exactly how many people have been infected already with minor to no symptoms which may give us the herd immunity needed to get thru this first wave and then get prepared for the later wave.

 

In fairness most nasty viral things in Kentucky are magnetically attracted to Calipari. This tends to leave the other people there alone.

 

Birx is right about not having controls--but there's a bit more to it. It's really a challenge to come up with valid controls while in the midsts of a rapidly changing/escalating outbreak. I don't think the worst case scenarios would be overstating things. I do think, however, the way some might promote them needs to come with strong(er) caveats. Bottom line is that this is a bad outbreak and even if it doesn't lead to the worst case scenario, it's already destructive and we don't know how much worse it will get.