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It doesn't.

Alabama v US v Vermont (highest boosted state)

 

not to mention linning the pockets of phizer/moderna ceo"s, saw they have made 51 billion in vaccine sales since this started, number could be wrong, but they are not going to the poorhouse anytime soon.

 

3 shots LOL? The vaccine works pretty good. Natural immunity is vastly superior. It’s not a discussion, it’s a fact.

 

What kind of side effects does obtaining natural immunity have?

 

My former Triathalon running engineer who can no longer walk from office to lab without sitting down 4 months after battling COVID really, really would take issue with you dismissal of this disease. He is now our companies' unofficial spokesman for vaccination.

 

speaking of cherry-picking again...

Let's look at a few things, Alabama is historically high on deaths per 100k even before the pandemic. It's no secret that part of our country is one of the most unhealthy in the world.
What was it about 80% of all covid hospitalizations are obese. You don't have to look much further than Bama and Mississippi to find most of our overweight population.

Number of Deaths per 100,000 Population

So you are taking a very unhealthy population to start with and add on top of that they are too damn ignorant to take the vaccine.
You used not only one of the healthiest states in our country but also one of the most boosted. That makes sense.

Vermont was well below even the national average for that matter.

With that being said, why do you always ignore the fact Omicron in every state infected 3 times the amount of people than covid did during Delta yet hospitalizations and deaths were both lower than delta?

If the Vaccine was as important as you want to imply, why didn't Alabama have a blood bath during Omicron?

Now if you want to acknowledge that NI played a big role in that, ill easily agree.

By the way, I like the table you used. Do you mind sharing the link to that?

Anyhow, can you compare Oregon to Alabama?
Both are similar in population. Vermont has a grand total of 600k...
Oregon still has a high vaccine rate compared to Bama.

 

U.S. COVID Risk & Vaccine Tracker

 

I am not dismissing anything. It is a serious disease. And healthy people can absolutely have terrible consequences from it. But the data is clear. If you are healthy…it is very unlikely you will have a severe outcome with Covid. I feel for your colleague. But I have never dismissed the disease. I have always taken it seriously. The propaganda is why you would even think I dismiss the disease and it is unfortunate to see.

 

You have very dismissive of the impact of the disease, as well as a simple, virtually natural approach to substitute for actually getting infected and as the data mounts it is more and more likely that that vaccine will protect from severe disease for years. I am frankly caught off guard seeing you back track, however, it is a positive that you will at least concede that this disease has the potential to be devastating.

 

for 99+%? Pretty much zero.

 

Well, cases are declining big time. Vaccines exposed the virus to immune systems that can handle it and the virus took a weaker form to allow it to survive against immune systems. And it spread milder and through the unvaccinated in a milder form than earlier variants (albeit more serious to the unvaxxed). So now the unvaxxed have convalescent immunity from exposure and the numbers of cases and serious cases are plummeting! Great Job Joe Biden! Gotta day that is you bashed Cumo as opposed to DeSantis when you compared the two states, right? Because it is all about Results. CDC says take off the Masks. Sly Joe did it!

 

About a 1% death rate?

 

I have always said the disease is terrible and just because you are healthy that you are immune from a severe outcome. At the same time the data speaks. The gradient of risk is massive for Covid. Like I have always said…this does not mean just because you are young and healthy that you are safe from a severe outcome. Same for all bad things in life. Ideally one avoids the disease. The good news is we have much better ways to fight against the disease.

 

You need to stop lying.

 

I think the fact it appears omicron did not attack in the lungs like delta and alpha and stayed upper respiratory is a much bigger reason it was less severe.

 

Getting three shots is much preferable than getting a potentially fatal infection. Natural immunity is not vastly superior, wheredo you get your data?

 

Go read what has been published. It’s not hard. Don’t be lazy. You let others think for you. Sucks for you.

 

I do read quite a bit, but appearantly not what you read. Give me a source.

 

We had the fear mongers on here talking about not believing the data that RSV was causing a lot of infants to be hospitalized and not covid. Well, here is data showing RSV resulted in 50% longer hospital stays than covid. Zero reason for healthy kids to be vaccinated or wear masks.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/uritheflu/97378

"Among nearly 200 symptomatic children (median age 3 months), the median length of stay was twice as long for those with RSV as compared to SARS-CoV-2 infections (4 vs 2 days; P<0.05), reported Meike Meyer, MD, of the University of Cologne in Germany, and colleagues in The Journal of Infectious Diseases."