Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

And you used that in response to someone saying they were not vaccinated numnuts.

So yes…you were insinuating vaccination is why that number is what it is.

Numnuts.

 

Wow, comparing not taking the vaccine to driving drunk. Congrats on over the top take off the day. Way to go!

 

Anyone thinking healthy kids are at risk of Covid is just lying. Don’t even respond to them. They aren’t worth your time.

 

I get not wanting to take the vaccine however idiotic the reason. But the never ending need to spread bullshit information I just don’t understand. It’s pathological.

 

Again, the medical community disagrees. While the risk is low, MIS-C is one of the most dangerous complications from pediatric COVID. From the CDC:

• Most children with MIS-C do not have any reported underlying medical conditions, but of the children with MIS-C who do report an underlying medical condition, obesity is the most common.

While the vaccine doesn't stop all MIS-C cases, vaccination prevents 91% of MIS-C cases. Same article discussing possible MIS-C risk factors:

Multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children (MIS-C), which can resemble toxic shock syndrome or Kawasaki disease, is not completely understood. But some health experts think it is caused by a misdirected immune response to the coronavirus, causing inflammation in the body’s vital organs. There are even theories that some may be genetically predisposed to it, which is true of other autoinflammatory diseases.
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Odds are, unvaccinated kids will be fine. But vaccinated kids have better odds. Why not take the small time and v reduce the risk?

The facts are, many childhood diseases we inoculate for also have low morality rates. Both measles and chicken pox have morality rates of 1 in 100,000 or lower. Odds are, your kids will recover if infected and unvaccinated. But vaccination reduces the risks even lower. And the vaccinations saves lives, considering there are about 75 million people under 17 in the US.

 

Breaking news:: cdc revises arbitrary thresholds, replaces them with more arbitrary thresholds.

 

It seems easy for you to minimize 1 million deaths by addressing the percentage of the population that died, touting your own survival, and calling it “thinning of the herd.” Seems cold to me. And aeema reflective of an utter lack of compassion. But then perhaps you can help me: how many people would have died without the mitigation measures and vaccines? How much “thinner” would the “herd” be?

 

Heart disease is not an infectious disease. Callous jerks can’t pass a heart attack to someone else.

 

Based on death certificates, 851k (90%) of 935k deaths list the person as *dying from covid* and 84k as *dying with covid*

So yeah, 84k dying with covid is many, but as a percentage of all covid deaths, it's less than 10%.

 

But it is a social disease that groups by family and even regional areas of the country. Kills more people than covid per year. Using your logic, the government should mandate exercise and healthy eating for everyone. Fine and jail those who don't.
It would save lives.

 

1 million over 2 yrs, less than heart disease and cancer.
The herd always needs to be thinner to stay healthy.
And not just my survival, LOL typing that, survival.
My girl who who beat cancer 3x, that's survival. She's unvaccinated, caught delta, got through on Tylenol and bed rest.

 

This is some serious convoluted thinking, 96. But if you truly believe what you write, and I'm not sure this is the case, or I hope not at least, then all those fellow traveling unvaccinated types in the face of the deadliest pandemic in a century have done their sacrificial best to thin the herd and prove your pet theory right. Worse is that many of them probably took down others who were trying to survive.

 

welcome to the inside of my head

 

These drugs do not stop you from transmitting the disease when you get it. And they certainly do not stop you from getting it. So spare us the “callous jerks” nonsense.

 

And they totally ignore the fact that the vaccinated spread this disease just like the unvaccinated.

The line we all hear now is…it would have been worse if I had not got the shot. They don’t know that. The ones who went and got their monoclonals or took the therapeutic pills certainly don’t know that. Possible. But just speculation.

Crazy how many will jump without questioning…

 

The vaccinate get and spread this just like the unvaccinated. Stop with the insinuation this is an unvaccinated issue with spread.

 

Nobody really wants to engage in your talking points anymore. You are a repetitive record. When people post numbers, you ignore them. When you post numbers and people point out the underlying data and conclusions of the studies show that your conclusions are wrong, you just keep making the same false claims based on your false interpretation of the data. It is intellectual dishonesty.

 

The herd needs to be thinner. That sums you up. What a sick, Callous idea.

 

That's not what the numbers strongly suggest. I haven't estimated cases in a while, but the difference in spread since April, including the recent omicron wave is in the many millions and deaths in the hundreds of thousands. The numbers aren't 100% proof positive (we don't prove things in science anyway), but given the differences, it's ideological driven delusion to claim that things are the same. Unvaccinated make things more dangerous for the herd. But they're victims of a twisted rw anti-science disinformation campaign. And of RFK Jr.

 

I insinuated no such thing. The complete and unedited recap:

Perhaps there was ambiguity in my comment as a result of my expectation that folks posting on this thread would be aware of national total covid deaths. It a marvel you didn't know the count given your number of daily posts on this thread.