Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

So say the Capitol Police!!

 

So lower than 37%

 

No. It isn't saying we are higher than 67% of nations, it is saying our death rate is 67% higher than all other wealthy countries.

 

This is what aggravated me about people who were screaming to open the schools and not require the kids to wear masks because kids weren't (normally) getting very sick.

"They are being traumatized because they can't see each others smiles."

Can you imagine how traumatized the kids are who have lost a parent? Or a grand parent? How much worse if they brought it home from school and gave it to their parents.

 

Dream was a poster from the past. Glad he is back if truly him.

 

No, it’s saying we’re higher than 63% which means we’re lower than 37%

 

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I went to the dentist on Friday, they're still requiring everyone to wear mask while in the lobby. So, I did but did ask why since we know it's pretty useless now. So, my hygienist along with the entire staff along with their families have all been vaccinated and have had their boosters admitted that most of them have caught covid and had mild to severe reactions. She said initially she was for making it mandatory for everyone to be vaccinated, since she caught covid and had a bit worse reaction than some of the others she no longer believes the effectiveness of the vaccines.

This is not surprising to me, I bet a lot of those who have been vaccinated and still caught covid feel the same.

 

We all know that omicron is eluding vaccines much better than delta. Still better to be vaxxed than unvaxxed, who are still 3x as likely to get infected than vaxxed. But more than that, I'd much rather be in the vaccinated group that comprise only 6% all covid deaths since April 2021 rather than in the unvaxxed group that comprises nearly 94% of deaths. Vaccines have saved a tremendous number of lives. Given the numbers, vaccines would have likely saved hundreds of thousands more had the unvaxxed gotten vaxxed. That's what the numbers suggest.

 

You can believe whatever data you would like, natural immunity is far better than the vax. You and I will never agree on this

 

Science doesn't care what you or I believe. None of us can know whether our immune system will hold up with any subsequent infection. These are probabilities not absolutes. That said, NI has been found to work extremely well. But NI and being vaccinated has been found to work better than NI alone. However, the differences between NI + Vaxx, NI, and Vaxx are very small while both NI and vaxx protections wane.

 

How many parents are traumatized from losing children due to suicide? Suicide rate among our young adult and teen group has sky rocketed. How many will have long last mental issues due to lockdowns?

CDC Reports 51% Increase in Suicide Attempts Among Teenage Girls | Brett Cooper

All the while, there was a lot of data from across the globe that schools didn’t cause any significant spread even in a community going through a high rate of infection.

Why schools probably aren’t COVID hotspots

The damage to life, education, and our children's future is far greater than what warrants any school lockdowns.

Now let’s talk about mask. We know that cloths are useless. So my question is, how many 13 year olds are going to keep a clean N95 or medical mask on correctly all day? Are parents going to replace it everyday? is there enough evidence a N95 is even safe for young ones to have on all day?

This study suggest surgical mask are a better idea for children.

Effects of N95 Mask Use on Pulmonary Function in Children - PubMed

 

I agree completely that the science doesn't care what we believe, but those putting in the data determines the outcome, and yes, I completely believe that has been a huge problem. Just look how the data keeps changing about the mask effectiveness, the worthless lock downs and coming some the true effectiveness (or should I say ineffectiveness) of the vaccine.

 

The thing is though, my guess is most of those parents died after contracting it from coworkers or other adults, not from their kids. Of course it happens.

Your quote line is actually something parents HAVE to balance. Kids were being harmed by all the isolation they experienced.

 

Data "changing" isn't ipso facto a problem. Things change. Measuring stuff scientifically is extremely difficult even in the best of settings.
Take something like masks where directly measuring usage in the natural world outside of controlled settings such as in hospitals is a massive challenge because outside of closed settings, measurement is based on self-reporting where people might underestimate their vigilance/consistency, wear really bad cloth masks, wear them incorrectly etc. That's not anyone juking the numbers, it's a testament to the level of difficulty that exists. Vaccine effectiveness is somewhat easier to measure wrt to who gets covid, gets hospitalized, and/or dies.

 

This sounds like a CNN or MSNBC talking point. Go do the research, schools aren’t spreading Covid anymore than the surrounding community. Most of the rest of the world doesn’t have kids in masks. Masks don’t work, but at least yiu aren’t alone in your thinking. Many others are also still buying that garbage.

 

I agree to a point, but the reporting of covid deaths have been inaccurate mainly due to people who died and just happened to have covid, the still falsely count the death as covid which is a lie

 

As you know, this came up as an issue very early on in the pandemic where it was necessary as a matter of capturing whatever data they could, even if say, the person died with covid vs covid being the cause of death.

However, I was surprised to discover last week that the CDC has gone back through the covid death records and now distinguish between the two types (with vs from). Roughtly 31.6k of 864k deaths were of people who didn't die directly from covid but had covid when they died.

 

This that a rhetorical question? Why don't you share your total teenage suicides and compare it to the number of parents' deaths.

Also, are you attributing all of those suicide attempts to school mask mandates or closures?

On an unrelated side note, while teenage girl suicide attempts were up in 2020, overall cross-age suicides decreased in 2020. I don't know how many parents didn't commit suicide but it would be an interesting comp to the number of children lost.

This article is pre-Omicron. Given pediatric hospitalizations markedly increased during Omicron, I am uncertain of its import. In the 1918 pandemic, some school closures had the benefit of slowing down peak infections which may be relevant in Omicron's somewhat narrow spike (no pun intended).

Are you for or against mask mandates in schools?

 

No it isn't. Check the chart.