Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Be interesting to plot on your graph when they started giving measles vaccines ...

 

“New Normal”

 

Anecdote incoming.

Had 2 calls yesterday for Shortness of breath related to Covid. One morbidly obese the other not. Both in bad condition and sats in the mid 80s.

PA friend of mine who moved up to Ohio a couple years back sent a text yesterday as well saying their hospital is packed and they had 2 separate codes staff had to work in hallways. Painted a pretty bad scene and he is a very level headed apolitical guy. Didn't editorialize it at all just keeping us up with current events in a friend group text.

Co worker yesterday Who I'll admit is very left leaning said he didn't feel information was being relayed accurately because his wife who is a nurse practitioner said her hospital was filled up as well here in Florida with covid cases.

My wife works at a rehab hospital in Jacksonville. She said their "covid floor" that had returned to normal use a few months ago was now back in use as a covid unit and they are back to Full PPE requirements for work. Some of her rehab cases from covid survivors are horrific although she readily admits most have comorbities. She also said age doesnt matter as her patients range from the 20s and up. death rate says nothing about the lives altered of survivors who have lost limbs, function, lung function, had strokes, had sepsis, etc etc

I haven't changed the way I do things although I don't like poorly ventilated small enclosures because of obvious reasons. I don't worry about grocery stores or being outside around people but again prefer not to be around groups of people in smaller buildings or rooms.

 

Sorry I missed that. Looks for all the world like sanitation and radical improvements in living conditions get the glory.

 

Prove Fauci told her.

 

So the infection rate goes down by ~90% in the first 9 years of the vaccine and that is because of the radical improvements in sanitation and living conditions during the 1960s in the US, not the vaccine?

 

he told me he did.

 

I see deaths dropping nearly 100% prior to the advent of vaccines. By the time I arrived on the scene we were playing tackle with measles kids in the front yard.

 

Strange though that the infection rate went down so much then during this tackle with the measles kids stage. Why do you suppose that happened?

 

Who cares ? Nobody was dying from it before vaccines were rolled out.

 

I'm guessing the around 10% of cases that were hospitalized cared. Sure, modern medicine could save most of those folks, but I am guessing that they still didn't enjoy the stay at the hospital.

History of Measles

 

Small. insignificant numbers, besides they were mostly just children, and it was an unproven, dangerous vaccine. Did I do that right? Oh, forgot... Freedom.

 

Look, these people have to understand our governor has a presidential primary to win in 3 years. These kinds of stories and accurate covid case counts make it harder.

Why would you want him to suffer? Have a heart.

 

I really enjoy reading yours and Skeptical's real world experiences on these matters. I get the feeling there are two worlds. Inside the hospital and outside and they are contrasting. People who get sick are whisked off to the hospital and unless we know them they are invisible. The fact that there are patient quarantines and limited visitation just makes it worse. We tend to react to what we see, and for the most part we don't see what you all are seeing.

 

I just report my experiences. I believe both extremes of political theater have botched this from the beginning and most people are just looking for reasons To support their side or to distrust the other.

I'll say it is hard to discern what the truth is sometimes. I heard Delta was less deadly but then again most of the people I know who died from covid did so during Delta. Now who knows which strain they had but all I know is people were dropping like flies last summer and they were not nursing home bound elderly like we saw in the first go around.

It pains me to see nurses and medics still claim conspiracy theories, fear vaccines or refute their efficacy in keeping people alive and with lesser symptoms. It especially bothers me to see them use their "medical training" to support their politically based biases.

 

Yeah that would really bother me too. Knowing me I'd say something and upset the apple cart. I avoid discussions about politics at work, but these are health care employees, who are saying grossly incorrect things about health care. I can't imagine.