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Yes he is the Gold Standard. The demand was clearly not there for them. The state had already received one three month extension which would have started at the end of September since it ended the at the end of December. We were on the Delta decline at the end of September and spent a lot of time during that three months as one of the lowest case rates. A good thing. Then omicron hit and now we are trying to get another extension.


““We had between 800,000 and a million test kits – Abbott rapid test kits in our warehouse – that did expire," Guthrie explained. "We tried to give them out prior to that, but there was not a demand for it.”

“We received a three-month extension on those test kits, which ended up expiring between Dec. 26 and Dec. 30," Guthrie added. "Prior to that date, we did ask Abbott and the federal government for another three-month extension on those, so we could use those tests. We’re still waiting to hear about that from HHS.””

Up to a million COVID test kits really did expire in Florida | wtsp.com

This is called being prepared! Seriously I hope the dems are dumb enough to try and run this story…

 

The 16X number comes from an Australian study.

 

First big limitation:


Funny how that is now finally realized by even Democrats.

Second, x16 is not age-adjusted. ridiculous claim by the article.

Third, it does not take into account the health status of any of these cases.

Anyhow, as I said, obviously high risk and elderly should have taken the vaccine, especially with how bad delta was. But to say healthy unvaccinated 30 years died at 16x the rate of vaccinated is absolutely ridiculous.

I'm sick of the news saying a healthy 25-year-old die of covid just to find out it is an obese 25-year old that clearly was not healthy.

Here is a great breakdown of the real risk of being hospitalized. Spoiler alert, it's less than 1% even for unvaccinated.

U.S. Adults' Estimates of COVID-19 Hospitalization Risk

"Using these adjusted figures, we calculate that the hospitalization rate for the vaccinated population is 0.01% (or 1 in 10,914), and the rate for unvaccinated adults is 0.89% (or 1 case in 112 people). In both cases, therefore, the correct answer is less than one percent, but the implied efficacy rate of vaccination is 99% at preventing hospitalizations. This is calculated as the hospitalization rate for the unvaccinated minus the hospitalization rate for the vaccinated, divided by the unvaccinated rate. In other words, it is the percentage decrease in hospitalization risk. This high rate of protection -- even against Delta -- is consistent with a recent article published in the Lancet, which reviewed large-scale empirical data from the United States and around the world."

 

Your link shows the risk of being hospitalized with COVID is reduced down from 1 in 112 to 1 in 10,914 with vaccination. Yes, the overall hospitalization rate may be under 1%, but why not significantly reduce your risk by simply getting vaccinated? Especially with the fact that short term, there are very limited side effects to the vaccine, whereas there are certainly increased risk from getting COVID, such as long haul symptoms.

The vaccine also helps those around you. It reduces you chance of getting COVID, which reduces the rate of spread. And if you do get COVID, the vaccine increases your recovery time by days, which also helps reduce the spread, as you would be contagious for a smaller period of time. And, by keeping thousands out of the hospitals, the vaccine helps reduce the work load and keep ICU beds open and ERs clear for non-COVID patients.

The CDC, by the way, stated unvaxxed were only 14X more likely to die from COVID this past November. Not age adjusted either, but with the vaccine being extremely low risk with high reward, everyone eligible should get vaccinated.

 

I suppose since you failed to provide any source for your claim that Fl had the lowest covid rate vs a Statistca link showing Fl as a fairly miserable 17th worst, I'd say that's a pathetic Gold Standard. If 2/3 of the states did better, what standard would they be? I find a sad standard set when the Gov. proudly announces the state will give out 1M tests, yet we hear at the same time that they sat on 1M tests and let them expire. Sounds like a con game learned from a former con man in DC.

 

In three weeks the 7-day case increase for our 10 counties (Ben Hill, Berrien, Brooks, Cook, Echols, Irwin, Lanier, Lowndes, Tift and Turner) has increased more than 20-fold. The 7-day case increase for December 16, 2021, was 116 for our 10 counties. The 7-day case increase as of January 6, 2022, is 2,381.

Vaccination Rates:

• Turner – 51%
• Brooks – 45%
• Tift – 41%
• Cook – 39%
• Ben Hill – 38%
• Irwin – 38%
• Lowndes – 37%
• Berrien – 32%
• Echols – 32%
• Lanier – 27%

 

Yeah, Sotomeyer is making up numbers, didn't know she was a regular on Too Hot.

 

All you need to know about this ruling has everything to do with POTUS's names.

 

The post you responded to was about "total deaths," not %. I'm with you in the hope that the % will decrease, but feel that we're in for a bumpy ride wrt total deaths.

 

Omicron says hello... Vaccines unless you had booster in the last 10 weeks do nothing for Omicron spread.
People need to stop saying reduces the spread... Hell, just this past week almost everyone I have spoken to who is currently sick with covid is fully vaccinated. Some even have booster shots.

My point in sharing that breakdown is that 16X more likely sounds scary until you realize it's still under 1% chance...

I trust any study from CDC as far as I can throw a 300 pound man. They have lost a lot of credibility during this pandemic. With all the mistakes they have made yet so many continue to blindly follow them.

 

now this aught to be interesting. the WH has contracted with USPS, who i work for, to deliver 500 million at home test kits, yet it appears we fall under the vaccine mandate he is pushing, so, if it passes and a great deal of carriers, etc are forced off the job, how do his kits get delivered?

 

Even at 19% efficacy of stopping infection, that's still 1 in 5 people that won't get COVID if vaccinated. And vaccinated people still recover days quicker from an infection with Omicron.

Regardless, if the vaccine reduces COVID to nothing more than a normal flu, with only a small bump in hospital visits and an average of 12,000 to 50,000 deaths a year, then that's not a full KO, but still a TKO win. Especially when we are currently dealing with over 1,000 deaths a day. Daily hospitalization numbers are even higher. The vaccine will absolutely cut both these numbers. And the risk from the vaccine? Lower than being unvaxxed and getting COVID.

 

if, as many think SCOTUS upholds the mandate, and USPS is granted an exemption, pandora's box is opened .every business and agency within the over 100 threshold would scream bloody murder and want to be exempt also, thoughts?

 

Fear porn? What about the fear of vaccines?

While the risks for covid kids are generally low, they aren't zero, they seem to be rising with Omicron and for the most part are completely avoidable. I have not seen any compelling argument not to vaccinate your kid. Yes there is small risk of mild myocarditis, but your risk of myocarditis is at least as high without vaxed due to a higher likelihood of myocarditis post covid.

If I were really concerned with vaccine myocarditis for some teen boys I'd probably just space out the shots more.

 

If I’m reading this correctly, you are backing up your assertion that a 16x hospitalization risk for the unvaccinated vs. the vaccinated is “absolutely ridiculous” and overstated, by providing a study indicating the risk is actually 89x? Brilliant!

 

Personally, I think the broad mandate should be overturned and they should be directed to be more specific. I.e. meat packing plants, schools, health care workers, public responders, etc. Not that I’m against the concept of a public health mandate, but I thought just doing it at “100 workers” left it vulnerable to being deemed arbitrary.

Of course even if they did a more logical mandate, the same dittoheads would attack it, so doesn’t really matter on a practical level (I just think doing it by “working conditions” would theoretically be more sound per OSHA’s role in occupational safety).

 

No doubt the fear of vaccines is ridiculous too. But I wonder how many people are not taking it trusting natural immunity. I myself had covid September 2020. I find no benefit in taking a vaccine tailored against the same virus my body has already beat. Sure it would refresh my antibodies. But it's not antibodies that we are depending on to get past this pandemic.
Also, studies out of UK and Germany show a higher chance of myocarditis with Merdona, especially for males compared to getting covid.

 

So far during the Supreme Court OSHA case, Sotomayor has claimed:
Covid deaths are currently at an all time high
Omicron is deadlier than Delta
100k Children are hospitalized with covid.


Like I said, she must listen to some of the fear mongers on Too Hot. Can't believe a Supreme Court Justice is so obtuse.

 

Ya saw that... how is this someone so disconnected from facts making a decision regarding vaccine mandates...