Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Uhhh what? Where do I get off?

I have a 17 year old vaxed and boosted. 21 year old vaxed not booster but had covid with monoclonals a couple of months ago.


I don't think I specifically told anybody to vax their kids, although they should. Just giving evidence that the vax actually does help keep kids out of the hospital.

Omicron is hitting kids harder because it is more transmissible and most kids aren't vaxxed. The number hospitalized isn't huge, in the thousands, but completely unavoidable nonetheless.

 

Kids have had vaccine requirements for decades. Are you aware of that?

Lots of parents are going to have, or should have, serious regrets for putting their kids at risk

Child hospitalizations are surging in this Chicago hospital. Only one of the young patients was fully vaccinated, doctor says - CNN

An average of 305 children were admitted to hospitals with Covid-19 on any given day over the week that ended on December 26, according to data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the US Department of Health and Human Services. That's more than a 48% increase from the previous week and just about 10% lower than the peak average of 342 children admitted to hospitals, a number that was recorded in late August and early September.

 

Georgia mobilizing national guard to help with the surge. What is DeSantis going to do?

Omicron surge: Georgia to send National Guard to hospitals, test sites

Omicron surge: Georgia to send National Guard to hospitals, test sites

 

Send national guard troops to the border.

 

COVID-19 cases: NYC sees 4-fold increase in children hospitalized

"...the department highlighted that for the week beginning on Dec. 19, statewide, no 5-11 year-old who was admitted to the hospital due to COVID-19 was fully vaccinated."

"Over that same time period, only one-fourth of 12-17 year-olds who were admitted to the hospital were fully vaccinated."

"These startling trends underscore the critical importance of protecting our children from COVID-19. The department urges parents and guardians of all children five years and older to get their kids fully vaccinated as soon as possible," the department added. "The department also reminds families that the best protection for those under five is to ensure all those around them are fully protected through vaccination, boosters, proper mask-wearing, crowd avoidance and testing."

 

Follow the data he is receiving…

 

My kids are getting their 2nd Pfizer shot today.

I'll feel better sending them back to school on Tuesday now.

 

You live in a fictional world where you draw the wrong conclusions from data. A one size fits all world filled with simplistic explanations for complex problems. But, what you wish to be true is fantasy. Here is another hospital— I posted a different one yesterday from a doctor Doctor— at Columbia Med School. Vaccinated and boosted owls who get infected and go to the hospital have lower levels of symptoms and do not have the breathing problems of those who are not. Discharged earlier. In other words, the vaccines are reducing the degree of illness for those who are exposed and get sick. You still can’t answer the question of what the country would look like if there were no vaccines. I am really growing weary of the intellectual dishonesty. More and more, i read posts like the nonsense you keep posting and realize just how effective propaganda is in this country. And, that is how it works. Alternate facts become reality and reality becomes propaganda. Here is the link.
Front-line physicians describe how vaccination affects patients in latest Covid wave

 

. Blessed is the True Judge.
Sorry about your brother in law. Awful for your sister. But, that is the thing about the odds. If you have an 11 times lower chance of death or serious illness with the vaccine, someone falls into that lower range. Terrible loss for your family and I am sorry.

 

DeSantis will hide. He will blame Biden for the long lines for testing (kits and facilities). Which is partly right. Biden didn’t expect a 60% vaccination rate by now and Delta through him for a loop. DeSantis won’t get hurt by this politically. He knows he just can’t make a misstep. So, he will let this Ron it’s course and say it is the science. And Omicron appears to be much milder: certainly for everyone I know who has COVID. They all have colds.

 

I have continually said people should take the vaccine if they feel it is best for them.

I will stand for people to make the decision to not take the vaccine as well. These drugs are not a silver bullet. Therapeutics and second/third generation vaccines will be where better answers are found. Hopefully we have not slowed that down with the strategy we took.

 

No vaccine in history has ever been a silver bullet. They simply don't exist in real life medicine. What vaccines do is limit the number who get infected, and significantly reduce the severity of infection for the majority who get vaccinated. A vaccine that turns a deadly virus into a minor cold isn't a failure. It's a success.

The numbers speak for themselves. 4X likely to get COVID and 16X more likely to die from COVID if unvaccinated.

As for treatments, they will never be as effective as a vaccine. Because treatments mean you're already infected, and the virus has taken up residence in your body. Omicron has already made the majority of monoclonal antibody treatments worthless. Your best bet is the vaccine. The vaccine trains your immune system on how to fight the virus, which will give you a solid chance of never getting sick. And if sick, will help you recover and rid yourself of the virus days faster if unvaccinated.

The vaccine is no 100% guarantee. But nothing works better today against COVID.

 

New York is really the only spot showing any significant increase in hospitalizations for kids. UK, Denmark, SA, and many other states are not seeing the same thing NY is. Explain that.

Omicron is not more severe for children, despite rising hospitalizations
"In fact, preliminary data suggest that compared with the delta variant, omicron appears to be causing milder illness in children, similar to early findings for adults.
I think the important story to tell here is that severity is way down and the risk for significant severe disease seems to be lower,” said Dr. David Rubin, a researcher at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia."


What is happening in NYC doesn't seem to be really happening anywhere else.

 

doesnt it take more than a week for the vaccine to take effect?

 

Well, that isn't true. South Africa saw a big increase in childhood hospitalizations when Omicron hit there.

Rapid rise in paediatric COVID-19 hospitalisations during the early stages of the Omicron wave, Tshwane District, South Africa

We have seen increases in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Texas as well as New York in the US hospitalization data. It appears to be a top of the funnel issue, where the likelihood of an individual case being hospitalized might be lower, but there is such an increase in getting cases that you end up with a lot more children in the hospital.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/12/24/omicron-children-hospitalizations-us/

 

true. Vaccines aren’t a silver bullet like seatbelts aren’t a silver bullet.

 

Not happening anywhere else?
Child Covid hospitalizations are up, especially in 5 states

 

And neither are some of the therapeutics originally thought to be silver bullets.
Omicron overpowers key COVID antibody treatments in early tests
Hospitals Scramble as Antibody Treatments Fail Against Omicron

 

Another cop out. “If the vaccines are good for them.” The vaccines are good 99% of the people who choose to not take them. Sorry. By now, they are too stupid to make that choice, which is why mandates are needed. They can’t distinguish between the fake reality reflected by your posts and what is really happening. And, by the way, you have to get sick to get therapeutics. What a stupid strategy. To focus on therapeutics in lieu of prevention of disease and severe disease. Btw; how much do monoclonals cost? How much needs to be available for everyone to get them in a sweeping pandemic? How long will people have to wait for them? That was DeSantis’ kind. No wonder he disappeared. Hard to tout monoclonals what nobody can get because the disease is so widespread. Don’t you get that the reason the disease is mutating to a weaker form and creating less serious illness is because of vaccines and the survivors of prior illness are crating immunities. Don’t you read study after study and report after report in the level of serous illness in the vaccinated versus the unvaccinated? And the unvaccinated increase risk to health care workers just by being in the hospital. We are past trying to educate anyone. It is like the guy on the Insider Board who kept referring to “the narrative” or differing opinions. I have had enough trying to Reason with people who live in a fantasy world. There is no reasoning. We have to protect ourselves.

 

must be lonely on that mountaintop of yours, high above the rest of us mortals oh wise one.